9th August 2012
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#391 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by automatom So, am I supposed to Flea or not to Flea? | YESSIR! YOu are supposed to FLEA. The reason is that you get 95% of the sound of an olden Neumann U47 for reasonable money and with a 10 year warranty.
Besides--Ivan and the FLEA team are sincere experts who really treat the customer right. They are very good people and they provide an excellent customer experience. Wonderful sound, beautiful metalworking, top top assembled product.
As for the others who are not satisfied with a different beautiful mic. One can only imagine the fashion industry cum mic sound in Hell-A.
Whack it on
Whack it off
Dress It UP
Take it Out
Hand Up Skirt
Won't Perform?
Slip it on
Rip it off
Tell Someone About
How It Tasted
Get rid of it
What was I thinking
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9th August 2012
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#392 | | Lives for gear
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I'm just wondering...what makes these clones cost $6000? Are we paying mostly for expertise and labor? I just wonder what the breakdown on the cost is...honest question...
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9th August 2012
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#393 | | Gear addict
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I suppose the real question is which Flea 47? Clearly this thread has made it clear that we go with an EF12, as Flea recommend, but do we go with the F7, F47 or Thiersch M7?
Are there folk out there with each or any of these variations and how do they work out in a Flea, not in terms of an old U47?
Cheers.
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9th August 2012
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#394 | | Lives for gear
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We buy the FLEA 47 with the F7 capsule and the EF12 tube. The F7 capsule is drilled / machined / finished by FLEA and skinned / checked / quality controlled by Thiersch. It is already handled by Herr Thiersch.
As far as capsules are concerned, FLEA partners with THE experts in each version of capsule. Thiersch for F7, M7 type and with Tim Campbell for C12 type.
Doesn't it give comfort that FLEA are wise enough to turn over capsule quality control / final assembly to specialists?
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9th August 2012
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#395 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: SoFo,Stockholm,Sweden | Quote:
Originally Posted by automatom So, am I supposed to Flea or not to Flea? | After the rescent epic derail on this thread, that's still the question... Had my first session w the Flea 249 today. On this singer (female) it was the winner over U67, Lucas CS-1 and CMV563. All sounded great of course but all three of us (producer, artist and me) preferred it on this particular project. A tad 10k boost (1081) and a touch of comp (Retro STA) did it!
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9th August 2012
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#396 | | Lives for gear
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There is a brand new FLEA demo cd available from FLEA dealers. The new cd features a good variety of music recorded with either the FLEA 47 or the FLEA 49. Some really nice work is portrayed and some GS recordists are featured on the cd.
FLEA included two of my tracks on the cd to show off the FLEA 49. One is a piano recording of the Scarlatti Sonata in F Minor done with two FLEA 49. The piano sound and performance is mindblowed with a fantastic up and coming pianist who placed very highly in the 2010 Chopin Competition in Warsaw.
Then also a portion of the Pergolesi "Stabat Mater" performed by the Lyric Consort with the soprano and mezzo-soprano captured with two FLEA 49.
Ask for it from FLEA or from your FLEA dealer. It is a very worthwhile listen and a very convincing case for getting on board with FLEA.
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9th August 2012
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#397 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2006 Location: GERMANY:FRANKFURT-WIESBADEN
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there is no flava in a flea.
its like a fiero Sportscar
with Bodykit
if you start the engine there is no gooseskin !
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10th August 2012
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#398 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by automatom I suppose the real question is which Flea 47? Clearly this thread has made it clear that we go with an EF12, as Flea recommend, but do we go with the F7, F47 or Thiersch M7?
Are there folk out there with each or any of these variations and how do they work out in a Flea, not in terms of an old U47?
Cheers. | I tried, the stock Flea with F7/M7, and the K47 capsule, I compared to the Wunder, and my current Tracy Korby 47.
My findings were that I did not care for the K47, it was too bright for my tastes.
I sent back the Wunder, and kept the Flea with the F7/M7.
The Flea was VERY close to the Korby rebuild, but the low mids are a bit tighter, which I dug.
Also, the dealer Aaron Housholder could not have been more accommodating with evaluation and the sale.
best,
Sean
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10th August 2012
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#399 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Sofa King I sent back the Wunder, and kept the Flea with the F7/M7. | You made right choice.
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10th August 2012
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#400 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Ozotelly You made right choice. | I'm pleased you approve.
Especially without hearing the comparisons.
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10th August 2012
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#401 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow
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What is it with you, buddy? What are you sarcastic? Sofa King, I had recording sessions with most of modern clones: Wagner, Wunder, Telefunken USA, Flea and some others during last 5 years.
I didn't compared Flea 47 and Wunder CM7 at the same time, that's true. But, I have used both mics. My friend has got Wunder CM7 with M7 capsule and EF14 tube, so I can rent it at any time. I also made some recording sessions with Flea 47, two years ago ( recordings of female vocal and flute). Flea 47 is much closer to U47 than Wunder. IMO.
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10th August 2012
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#402 | | Telling it like it is
Joined: May 2010 Location: Queens, NY
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Originally Posted by wildpark its like a fiero Sportscar
with Bodykit | Wow, I haven't even heard anyone mention that since 1992! Do people still put body kits on Fieros? Talk about a flashback!
Regards,
Frank
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11th August 2012
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#403 | | Lives for gear
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Can this be moved over to the OCD forum, or is there no OCD section? There should be.........
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12th August 2012
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#404 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Vintageidiot Can this be moved over to the OCD forum, or is there no OCD section? There should be......... | But... *all* the forums here are OCD forums. |
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12th August 2012
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#405 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by DarkSky Media But... *all* the forums here are OCD forums.  | You beat me to it... Lol
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13th August 2012
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#406 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Ozotelly What is it with you, buddy? What are you sarcastic? Sofa King, I had recording sessions with most of modern clones: . | So I must have missed the part where you said you have a Korby modded 47, my mistake.
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13th August 2012
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#407 | | Lives for gear
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@frank
the fiero will survive as long
peeps asc for a Lamborghini
for Low last time i seaw a
Aventador kit with it.
Stupidness never ends
like the ones
fill sides on this forums
without ever tryd the real deal
too fit for the feeld economics !
in Music Biz.
the Big Boys are still in there seats
and junkies running
after the best China Copy
vintage Gear,
and burning there mind until
there early ********.
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13th August 2012
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#408 | | Lives for gear
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Wildpark--you are exactly right.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Gearslutz App
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13th August 2012
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#409 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville
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Originally Posted by carloff If you want to U47 color for not such a big money- yes.Flea is nice professional mic..
if you want the best clone then AG47
my 5 cents | Where do you even buy the AG47?
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13th August 2012
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#410 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn Where do you even buy the AG47? | The best is to write Andreas...
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13th August 2012
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#411 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow
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And you'll never regret it. His new Vf14er is amazing!
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13th August 2012
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#412 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by yotonic Directly from Andreas. Still love your voice on the Wunder GT K47 capsule John, but you're one of those self producing artists who has his own criteria.  | I thought it sounded muffled and 2 dimensional...
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13th August 2012
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#413 | | Lives for gear
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Why don't we talk about FLEA and leave out the OT stuff. Start your own thread for Grosser and other misc clones.
Here we are talking about FLEA.
Sent from my Galaxy S III
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14th August 2012
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#414 | | Lives for gear
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Guess I ultimately have to please myself... Quote:
Originally Posted by REX I liked the GT best of all the mics I've heard on your voice John and I noticed some other guys made the same observation. Primarily because of what it did with your vocal register. It made your voice sound deeper, smoother and more classic crooner. Some of the other mics you've used left your voice a little too high and edgy. I always thought the GT made your voice sound more crossover, a tone that could go from The Eagles to Country. The Flea might be a real good fit for your voice too, their capsule design imparts a smoothness and gets rid of the zingy, edge you hear in other mics. Also it has a well balanced bottom end that is full and masculine without getting too wooly. | |
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14th August 2012
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#415 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: SoFo,Stockholm,Sweden | Quote:
Originally Posted by yotonic Don't worry this thread is back on track. | Really?! I don't see the signs, but hope you're right. Peace.
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14th August 2012
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#416 | | Lives for gear
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Lakers got Dwight Howard
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14th August 2012
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#417 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: SoFo,Stockholm,Sweden | Quote:
Originally Posted by Empire Prod Lakers got Dwight Howard |    At least more interesting than yet another yap about U47 vs clones, Neve vs clones, Avalon 737, ITB/OTB etc etc
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14th August 2012
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#418 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: los angeles
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Originally Posted by REX The Flea might be a real good fit for your voice too, their capsule design imparts a smoothness and gets rid of the zingy, edge you hear in other mics. Also it has a well balanced bottom end that is full and masculine without getting too wooly. | Agree. Would love to hear John Kenn's voice on a Flea 47 & Pearlman TM-1.
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14th August 2012
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#419 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by Empire Prod Lakers got Dwight Howard | I'm beginning to think there is something about competitive youth baseball that drives people insane.
For all you fathers of young athletes out there: TENNIS IS BETTER!!
The Flea47 totally rocks. It makes even MY voice sound good.
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Originally Posted by u b k .....Along with a link to one or three of their own mixes that demonstrate what the poster is claiming. Otherwise, they're just blowin' smoke out their @ss and asking me to breathe deep. | |
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14th August 2012
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#420 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by cinealta Agree. Would love to hear John Kenn's voice on a Flea 47 & Pearlman TM-1. | I think we should take up a collection to donate a Flea 47 to me...
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