I've compared sound of AG47 to my u47 and didn't found differences what you found . Did you try to use different capsule? Maybe it's Mylar M7 does not work for you. Although what's the difference if you have already sold. In vain you do not consulted with Andreas before you sell a microphone. You may need a slight correction - and you would be happy.But returning to the theme topic, I strongly recommend everyone who is looking for U47 to try AG47 s in the first place. If only because you can always put good VF14 inside and get 100% of U47's sound. Although I like VF14ER substitute more than original VF14.
Glad your enjoying your Grosser mic sir.
I'm currently enjoying a borrowed vintage 47 which doesn't need tube
/capsule/transformer/caps etc changes/to sound correct .
It already sounds like it should=
I've heard loads of 47's over the years.
The Capitol ref was just a broad stab at a known sound .
Did not want to chase down a 1500.00 vf14 in reissue mic I had already invested a lot of money in.
David Bock would agree regarding changing the tube
There were some other thing he thought could improve/change the mic for the better (PSU etc) but it was a potential money pit I don't want to pursue.
Bottom line/Honestly i got kinda bored with the chase and moved on
The mic has been traded/sold thanks
Eventually Spent the dough on an amazing grosser maintained km56 pair
Hmm I have in my studio Neumann U47 with VF14 next to Grosser AG47..
I guess there is some inside politics.David Bock, who is moderator in another forum with Oliver..hmhm, olala
here are samples for blind test:
Neumann and Voxorama FET and Tube...
who will recognize which is which?
Hmm I have in my studio Neumann U47 with VF14 next to Grosser AG47..
I guess there is some inside politics.David Bock, who is moderator in another forum with Oliver..hmhm
here are samples for blind test:
Neumann and Voxorama FET and Tube...
who will recognize which is which?
I must nothing than 100% agree with Ozotelly
Carloff I'm not able hear your samples just yet
I think I've heard some of yours before and they sounded good.
I'm sure you're AG sounds great.
No need to defend your purchases boys lol
But I can assure you there's no politics involved.
The guy had the mic on his bench for all to hear.
Why can't I just share my experiences withe the mic (for better or worse)without having a bunch of dudes jumping on credibility?
I spent a fvckking fortune on that mic.
Believe me I wanted it to be the holy grail of 47 whatever clones.
With some help it probably would've been spectacular .
I just got sick of dumping money and lots of time into new mics to sound right.
Shipping, customs ,back to Berlin
Wait wait wait. Ugh over it
Carloff I'm not able hear your samples just yet
I think I've heard some of yours before and they sounded good.
But I can assure you there's no politics involved.
The guy had the mic on his bench for all to hear.
Why can't I just share my experiences withe the mic (for better or worse)without having a bunch of dudes jumping on credibility?
I spent a fvckking fortune on that mic.
Believe me I wanted it to be the holy grail of 47 whatever clones.
With some help it probably would've been spectacular
I just sick of dumping money into new mics to sound right.
I trying to belive mate, but this is opposite what I do hear and I do have in my own studio...I always believe my ears on the first place...I'm quite used to doubt about credibility if there is possibility to competition, business relationship and so on..this is not nice world..
I trying to belive mate, but this is opposite what I do hear and I do have in my own studio...I always believe my ears on the first place...I'm quite used to doubt about credibility if there is possibility to competition, business relationship and so on..this is not nice world..
I'm sure our ears aren't lying buddy
I had a different mic to yours that's all
Prolly needed tweaking etc
I kinda lost patience with tweaking brand new shit a long time ago.
Especially when I have to ship it back to Berlin.
It either works and stays or I sell /return and move on
I'm sure our ears aren't lying buddy
I had a different mic to yours that's all
Prolly needed tweaking etc
I kinda lost patience with tweaking brand new shit a long time ago.
Especially when I have to ship it back to Berlin.
It either works and stays or I sell /return and move on
If you will sell it let me know good to have a pair
I will easily fix it in Berlin...
If you will sell it let me know
I will fix it in Berlin...
Already traded it
Don't get me wrong the mic did not sound bad
Not by a stretch
The highs were very nice
Albiet bit more of the modern variety.
The low mids were a little lean /loose compared to a great sounding 47 I use frequently which had that thick chesty thing I described earlier.
(not proximity effect)
Bock heard an improvement when a vf was used.
I got a lot of wonderful sounding tracks out of it.
What are grossers going for nowadays?
I think all in I was at over 7k
That is a lot of money for a non collectible new microphone
Begs the question:
Flea $4k
Grosser $7k
Is there really really a 3 grand difference?
Let's not even talk about resale
In April one was sold over ebay for 6000,- ..new is for 5500 eur... I think it is good resale value ..and will be only 100 pieces...so it means it is very collectable..
SM7 costs 300,- , Flea 4000,- is there really really a 3,7 grand difference?
We are in the Highend mate,, centimeters cost grands here..
In April one was sold over ebay for 6000,- ..new is for 5500 eur... I think it is good resale value ..and will be only 100 pieces...so it means it is very collectable..
SM7 costs 300,- , Flea 4000,- is there really really a 3,7 grand difference?
We are in the Highend mate,, centimeters cost grands here..
Good to hear
I haven't had a lot of faith in new resale lately
My Anamod new was over 4k
See them fully loaded going for 3 now
Boris, thanx for your support. I visited Andreas a week ago. That was amazing meeting! He recommended me to visit you. So...I'll try, if it's possible.
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When I said that it is possible to replace the VF14EF to VF14, I mean that this is only an option, nothing more. I am very happy with VF14er replacement. I like it more than VF14M, although it does not repeat the VF14 M completely. I can say that the microphone VF14ER better than my U47 with VF14M on vocals. Vocals are easier to sit in the mix, less processing is required. I repeat: that on standart configuration with VF14 Ef or VF14er AG47 is the best choice today if haven got possibility to find U47. Of course, time will tell. Fanatical desire to have a U47 does not bring any good, in my opinion. I am glad that you managed to buy a U47, with whom you are happy. The same who want to have such a microphone, but with a guarantee of 10 years, and unparalleled service from the best expert on ancient microphones, I recommend AG47. The same who did decide to make the right choices, and Andreas make the microphone exactly as they want.
Boris, thanx for your support. I visited Andreas a week ago. That was amazing meeting! He recommended me to visit you. So...I'll try, if it's possible.
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When I said that it is possible to replace the VF14EF to VF14, I mean that this is only an option, nothing more. I am very happy with VF14er replacement. I like it more than VF14M, although it does not repeat the VF14 M completely. I can say that the microphone VF14ER better than my U47 with VF14M on vocals. Vocals are easier to sit in the mix, less processing is required. I repeat: that on standart configuration with VF14 Ef or VF14er AG47 is the best choice today if haven got possibility to find U47. Of course, time will tell. Fanatical desire to have a U47 does not bring any good, in my opinion. I am glad that you managed to buy a U47, with whom you are happy. The same who want to have such a microphone, but with a guarantee of 10 years, and unparalleled service from the best expert on ancient microphones, I recommend AG47. The same who did decide to make the right choices, and Andreas make the microphone exactly as they want.
thanks for your input.
I have no regrets.
after all,they're just microphones..not life saving devices! lol
No, the microphone is not vital. But it improves life!
So my tips are as follows:
1.Avoid buying U47-ish microphones that are used in circuit design with more than 5-10% underheating of the tube. Such as the EF14-based. This investment, which will require you to endless spending on repairs.
2. Pay attention to warranties. If the warranty on the microphone is less than five years - do not buy it.
3. Pay attention what components are used in microphones.The more conscientious producer, the more detail is done directly on its production. Remember: the best transformers of all time in Germany. The best capsules for U47 are also in Germany.
4. If you looking for best U47-ish mic, the best option will be three models:
1. Vox-o-rama AG 47 (~6500Eu)
2. Wagner U47w (~8 000 AUD)
3. Flea 47 with EF12 or VF14 tube (~3000Eu )
Boris, thanx for your support. I visited Andreas a week ago. That was amazing meeting! He recommended me to visit you. So...I'll try, if it's possible.
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When I said that it is possible to replace the VF14EF to VF14, I mean that this is only an option, nothing more. I am very happy with VF14er replacement. I like it more than VF14M, although it does not repeat the VF14 M completely. I can say that the microphone VF14ER better than my U47 with VF14M on vocals. Vocals are easier to sit in the mix, less processing is required. I repeat: that on standart configuration with VF14 Ef or VF14er AG47 is the best choice today if haven got possibility to find U47. Of course, time will tell. Fanatical desire to have a U47 does not bring any good, in my opinion. I am glad that you managed to buy a U47, with whom you are happy. The same who want to have such a microphone, but with a guarantee of 10 years, and unparalleled service from the best expert on ancient microphones, I recommend AG47. The same who did decide to make the right choices, and Andreas make the microphone exactly as they want.
You are welcome my friend in Prague ofcourse!Let me know- I'm just now on holidays so after September please..
AG47 is one of the two best clones-- other is Wagner ..third Flea...my 5 cents...
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after all,they're just microphones..not life saving devices! lol
I love them ...it is ill -I know.. I hope it has nothing to do with shape of my willy
Hmmm, I think I would buy a slew of kool microphones, to make recordings with...With that kind of investment in a studio...If I was going to spend 14K on one microphone, it would be pretty hard to argue with myself on spending 15K for a WHOLE bunch of microphones.
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none of my mics cost 14k even 8k, as I wrote in another thread:vintage mics are great as an investment as they pay better dividends than any bank has to offer..
Hmm I have in my studio Neumann U47 with VF14 next to Grosser AG47..
I guess there is some inside politics.David Bock, who is moderator in another forum with Oliver..hmhm, olala
here are samples for blind test:
Neumann and Voxorama FET and Tube...
who will recognize which is which?
I must nothing than 100% agree with Ozotelly
Politics has nothing to do with what a mic sounds like. It doesn't matter to me if a mic sounds good or not, and it's origins are irrelevant to me. I just call 'em like I see 'em.
Sorry your attempt to invent a conspiracy has failed.
Politics has nothing to do with what a mic sounds like. It doesn't matter to me if a mic sounds good or not, and it's origins are irrelevant to me. I just call 'em like I see 'em.
Sorry your attempt to invent a conspiracy has failed.
Allright
Can I ask then what is what in my blind test?
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. Did you try to use different capsule? Maybe it's Mylar M7 does not work for you. Although what's the difference if you have already sold. In vain you do not consulted with Andreas before you sell a microphone. You may need a slight correction - and you would be happy.But returning to the theme topic, I strongly recommend everyone who is looking for U47 to try AG47 s in the first place. If only because you can always put good VF14 inside and get 100% of U47's sound. Although I like VF14ER substitute more than original VF14.
good to have a pair
