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C414b XLII vs. C414 XLII, Questions regarding differences

From what I know, the C414 XLII is a newer version of the C414b XLII, it also costs 300 more dollars more. What are the main differences between these two mics? I tried searching but was unsuccessful in finding the differences between the two. If you have any info, please share.
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Besides the price difference, I found out that it doesn't have intermediate polar patterns, different sensitivity spec(23mv for the c414b tlii vs. 20 mv for the c414 tlii) and also cosmetic differences. here are some photo links that may help. someone in the chat room said they have different capsules also

[IMG]file:///C:/Users/ADAMHA%7E1.ADA/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]http://akg.com/mediendatenbank2/pspic/image//66/image1118060127_c414b_XLII42a43e5fb7e88.JPG

[IMG]file:///C:/Users/ADAMHA%7E1.ADA/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png[/IMG]http://akg.com/mediendatenbank2/pspic/image/4/image125734af186dba252f.jpg

This guy had a similar question that never got anwsered.

AKG c414 XLS or XLS-B
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So nobody has had experience with these two mics? I know they must sound different because of the different sensivity ratings. Can anybody help with nice info on sonic differences? if there is any?
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414 XLII more for solo/vocals , sounds different to the 414b XLII version
more eq from 5khz i think.....
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414 XLII more for solo/vocals , sounds different to the 414b XLII version
more eq from 5khz i think.....
I think you're thinking about the difference between the XLII and the XLS. XLII is designed with a high-mid bump for vocals, XLS is flatter.

He's asking about the current vs. previous generation, I think...
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A bump for this thread. Curious if anyone is using the newer, non B, versions of the 414 (they have nine patterns now).
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Used a few different versions and own two B-XLS. Never had a problem with using any of. But hey, I try my best to roll with the flow and ignore the over technical things.

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Any other thoughts on the the newest C414 incarnation (C414 XLS or XLII)---the ones with nine patterns?
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I have used 414XLII quite much cause it's always available at the studio I'm renting. Don't like it very much though Even though it has a "presence bump" it is too dark for my needs. You can high self it but it'll not sound crisp like old AKG mics.

It has a nice body though (XLS probaly also?), but it doesn't sound natural to me. It sounds like it's amped through a FET guitar amp (I just learned that it has like 12 transistors in it so no wonder).
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So no opinions just yet...??

I think some may be overlooking the very latest 2009 C414 models. Newer than the B-XLS and B-XLII. I will email AKG to see what they say.

from the AKG site.
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The new models C 414 XLS and C 414 XLII offer nine pickup patterns which enable to choose the perfect setting for every application. For live-sound applications and permanent installations all controls can be disabled easily for trouble-free use. A Peak Hold LED displays even shortest overload peaks.

The C 414 XLS maintains the sonic character of the legendary C 414 B-ULS, the longest-lived C 414 model. Engineered for highest linearity and neutral sound, it is the most universal and versatile large diaphragm microphone for decades. Widely used for accurate, beautifully detailed pickup of any acoustic instrument the new C 414 XLS combines proven reference quality, leading-edge technology and state-of-the-art components.

The C 414 comes complete with carrying case, pop filter, windscreen, and spider-type shock mount."
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Is there any more info on this matter? AKG doesn´t tell much about the difference between C414B XLII ( 2004) and C414 XLII (2009) either...
A funny thing happened today, I thought I bought a used C414 XLII but it was the older B version that came...However the microphone sounded ok so I agreed to pay a slightly lower price but I am very interested what I´m missing from the newer model...
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I am very interested what I´m missing from the newer model...
9 directivity settings instead of 5.
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9 directivity settings instead of 5.
Yes, I found that info finally.
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Keeping this thread going here....

I (thought I) bought a new 414 XL II about a year ago. After reading this thread I looked in the case and noticed everything said "C 414 XL II" except the signed freq spec sheet which says "C 414 B-XL II" followed by the serial #. However, my mic has 9 pickup patterns. The mfr date is 4-23-2010, what's the deal here??

Btw, everything was factory sealed and the serial #'s match up.
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If it has 9 directivity patterns there is no doubt that it is a new C414. Likely they were still using the old frequency response forms for the new mics at this time.
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That's kinda what I figured. Could make it tricky for resale, but why would anyone get rid of this mic?! It's the 58 of condensers.
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Yes, I am very happy with the microphone, even though the seller thought he sold me the newer C414 XL II...and I got the C414B XL II...Fortunately he agreed to drop the price a bit and we were both happy.
The C414B XL II sounds rather similar to my Brauner Valvet which costs 4times more...
And the Brauner has only 2 pickup patterns
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We A/B'd an XL S and an XL II on male vox ...

XL S sounded much "better" (natural) than the XL II ...

Still prefer the older B-ULS ...
and, even more, the EB!
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