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Beesneez Tribute 1 vs Flea 47 vs Wunder CM7/GT

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Other models I should consider
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Give me your opinions, They are all in the $4000 range and i want a "47" type mic.

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Pros, Cons
Other models I should consider
Likes/ Dislikes

Give me your opinions, They are all in the $4000 range and i want a "47" type mic.

Jon
i love my gt w/m7 capsule. i've only heard a vintage 47 once in my life so i wont compare them but i love both of my wunders (cm12 and gt)
i was planning on getting a mic from ben a little while back and was really excited. unfortunately something bad happened within my family and i had to cut back on a LOT of purchases i was planning to do. bens a real cool guy, very helpful and knowledgable. email him or call him, he'll definitely help you
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...They are all in the $4000 range...
I was under the impression that the Flea 47 is significantly more expensive than the other two mics you mention?
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Far enough. I thought I'd seen it for £3,999, which is around 6.5k USD. But perhaps that was a model with VF14m tube...
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yes but you need to pay a lot more for the mount, case, etc
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They were all in the same ballpark. The FLEA was with the EF14. Anyone have experience with the Beesneez?
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Now if the Telefunken were in the same price range I would be thinking about one of those too.
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I have experience with Beesneez mics but only their entry level mic, the Jade. It sounds really good for voices, not terribly exciting as a room mic.But again, the Jade is his entry level mic and it is a different mic than the Tribute which has a german steel tube, huge Cinemag tranny and different capsule. I would sure like to try the Tribute though. I know Ben puts a lot of effort into making a great product. There are a few gearslutz who own Tributes, I think you should do a search, find out who they are, and PM them. I'm sure they would be more than happy to share with you any impressions they have.Good luck with your mic search, it is truly exciting to get a premium mic.
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The beeneez T1 has a warm rich beautiful sound. I can't say anything bad about it.

The paper/oil caps really adds some thickness to it.
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Hi there, If you get the chance, make use of money back guarantee's and exchanges to try out all of the mics you have mentioned, this way you can decde for yourself.

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Hey Guys,

if you want to check them out and are EU customers, come and contact us under digitalaudioservice.de...
Also we could give you a pretty good overview of the U47 styles!

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I compared the Flea 47 with the Wunder CM7 GT and opted for the Flea, but you might easily have different needs. To my ears, the Wunder was more forward sounding with a more modern high end for lack of a better word. A little too bright and papery sounding for my taste. The Flea went deeper, still had a nice midrange forward lean and just seemed in some subtle way to more "evoke an era".

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the Wunder CM7 GT... A little too bright and papery sounding for my taste.
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my thoughts exactly.
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BeesNeez T1 v. Flea 47

This thread needs some revival. I've narrowed my "47" search down to two choices for me; the Flea 47 and the BeesNeez Tribute 1.

Has anyone had experience comparing these two particular mics?

I've found these examples of each that have sparked my interest.

Jacqui Hamilton sings We're All Alone by Boz Scaggs - YouTube

Brad Kelly (YRLK) performs You've Got A Song To Sing - YouTube


Yes, two different styles and sources, but both sound great. If I could float $10k worth of mics, I'd test both and just keep one. Don't know anywhere around me that has both to demo (I'm in Rhode Island).

It would be great to hear from anyone who has actually heard these mics side by side. Fingers crossed.

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The CM7 is a different mic to the GT version if you get a chance make sure you audition the CM7,
Mine is very close to that lovely reedy vibe a 47 gives you but with a slightly more modern top end
Which works very well in a mix with virtually no EQ.

If you get in close on a quality pre you get a fantastic depth as well as that mid forward vibe.
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This thread needs some revival. I've narrowed my "47" search down to two choices for me; the Flea 47 and the BeesNeez Tribute 1.

Has anyone had experience comparing these two particular mics?
Why would you narrow it down to those 2?
I haven't used the BeesNeez but have used the other 2. You should still consider the Wunder.
Try to get a hold of the 3 & keep audio files if you can't audition them at the same time (not an ideal A/B comparison but better than nothing).
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For $2000 you can get Dave Pearlmans new TM47. I just got one and really like it.
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Bear in mind that Wunder and possibly Flea and Ben will custom voice it for you. There are several options that Wunder offers, so any given one you try will not represent all possibilities.
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Why would you narrow it down to those 2?

Try to get a hold of the 3 & keep audio files if you can't audition them at the same time (not an ideal A/B comparison but better than nothing).
That's basically what I've done. Spent quite a while reading posts and searching for samples online. To my ears the Flea edged out a bit over the Wunder. I intend on listening one last time.

The new DP looks cool. Thanks for the pic. I had not included that in my search. Is it electronically/sonically different from the TM1, or is it a TM1 in a pretty shell?

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Bear in mind that Wunder and possibly Flea and Ben will custom voice it for you. There are several options that Wunder offers, so any given one you try will not represent all possibilities.
I'm listening primarily for harmonics/depth, and overall quality, not so much a strickt EQ curve, but yes, most of these guys are really great about custom fine tuning.

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One of the distinguishing traits that is often sited in these kinds of comparisons is how bright they are, as seen above, and this is one of the main things they can easily change in the capsule variables as stated on Wunders website.
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That's basically what I've done. Spent quite a while reading posts and searching for samples online. To my ears the Flea edged out a bit over the Wunder. I intend on listening one last time.

The new DP looks cool. Thanks for the pic. I had not included that in my search. Is it electronically/sonically different from the TM1, or is it a TM1 in a pretty shell?

-Ben
I don't know what the guts of the TM1 are but the TM47 is an EF14 tube with a cardioid Pearlman K47 capsule and the transformer is a Pearlman BV8.

It sounds great! You should at least give Dave a call and talk to him about it.

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This pursuit for the ultimate 47 type mic is tiresome.
I've been on the hunt for years.
Probably the only way to be satisfied is to save and buy a real vintage one.
Having said that the Mics mentioned in this thread are all world class and will get the job done.
Do they sound exactly like a vintage 47 - probably not.
But from what I've heard no 47 sounds like another 47.
Good luck in your quest.
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I seem to recall Klaus Heyne talking about how Ben Sneesby's U47 capsule was the closest he's seen to the original, closer than theirsch, closer than gefell.
His recommendation alone should have you seriously looking at Ben's mics. If I was in the market I would be.
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I seem to recall Klaus Heyne talking about how Ben Sneesby's U47 capsule was the closest he's seen to the original, closer than theirsch, closer than gefell.
Lou,

I've heard about Ben's capsules, and I've also heard a lot of samples of several of his mics. They all have "that" sound, which I attribute primarily to a great quality capsule.

To me, the T1 and the Flea both have that magic over others. I guess where I'm torn is on two scores: 1) the Flea just looks more like a u47 and 2) I have not heard samples of just the T1 micing up a source at a distance.

So, if anyone has directly compared these two mics, please say something!

Angus, a Wagner would be great, Voxorama too, but more than I would like to spend.
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