JBL 4326P vrs Dynaudio BM5A's vrs BM6A MKII's

[K Livingston]

Surprising to see that JBL are liked more than the Dyns here so far

[K Livingston]

Do the BM5a's produce more accurate mixes than the BM6a's if you are in a saler room for mixing?

[Multi-Monitors]

what about the adam a7s?

[K Livingston]

Does anyone have any expereince with the Dynaudio BM5a's?

Do they allow for mixes that translate well or do they **** things up pretty good in terms of being accurate to making mixes translate well on aother playback systems?

[K Livingston]

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[djanthonyw]

You can't go wrong with JBL or Dynaudio. Personally, I prefer Dynaudio, but avoid Mackie. I used to have the 624's and they sucked.... very colored and fatiguing.

[KBOY]

I must say, just today I did a listening test between the JBLs, Mackies, Krk's, Yamahas, and the dynaudios..

To me the Dynaudio's destroyed the others. Clarity, imaging and the one thing that I was surprised of was an amazing bottom end. I could actually hear the lower end of the note from an 808, where all the others seemed boomy. Ie.... Definition down there, not just big bass. But I tend to like sealed speakers.

[Fruition2k]

My BM6A's have been in front of me for 10 years now, been through the cycle where everyone loved them, then hated them, then hmm the originals are best.
I love the midrange detail...next stop for me is PMC when I can afford it..

[Jake Holland]

Interested to know how people's mixes translate when they mix on the BM5a's?

[KBOY]

I would think it's like most speakers. You have to learn it. I could see myself mixing a little dull in the top at first. But once I got used to them I could see myself making better decisions on placement instead. But I have yet to mix on them, so my point is really an uneducated one.

But in my A / B comparison I find the detail I hear in them to be superb for a speaker in that price range. I can even make out more detail in the lower octaves. Kind of blew me away actually.

[DIGI ENT]

Been using the BM5a's (II i believe?) for almost 3 years. They translate VERY well. My room is treated and I have pro AD/DA and a transparent monitor controller.

[Jake Holland]

I don't think the BM5A's are onto Version II yet.

I think they have a BM5A normal size and a BM5A compact size version.

Regardless, I think these might be the right speakers to mix on for small rooms after reading many threads with varying opinions.

Not too many people have complaints about Dynaudio BM5A's. People seem to complain about the same things that people used to complain about with NS10's and they were the most reliable for most engineers.

Mackie, KRK, JBL, Adam, Event on the other hand....there are many complaints among praise it seems.

[Micah Tolentino]

the 5a's are great for smallish rooms. I think sometimes they have TOO much bass and adequate bass trapping is a prerequisite to getting a good translation out of them. But once you get your bass under control the 5a's never disappoint. Very accurate and not fatiguing on the ears means more work = more money. I can trust them so much I can print without doing the "car check" anymore. thumbsup

[lcressy]

I will say that my mixes translate VERY well. I am on the BM5a's and when I listen in my car, it's what I remember from my room. I will say, that room treatment and monitor placement is critical, but once you get the room dialed in, everything is very accurate.

[K Livingston]

I heard them.

They have a lot of deep low end that sounds muddy in my room.

It's quite easy to hear sonic mud on these thangs.

So...are there other speakers that have what the BM5a's have but with the right amount of low end?

I keep my monitors about 3 feet from the back wall and 20 feet fm the other wall. That shouldbe enough I think,

I don't want to have to do crazy things to my room.

I just wat monitors I can put on the stands and they let me mix without worry of weirdness when I take the mixes elsewhere.

[lcressy]

You say that they have a deep low end and sound muddy in your room. They cut off at 50hz, so they don't go that deep. I have a sub set to match the volume of the BM5's to pick up what's under that and don't find it muddy at all. I do however have 18 bass traps as well, so my question is how well is your room treated. If it isn't treated acoustically, it really won't matter what monitor you buy, none of them will translate well.

[K Livingston]

Daniel Lanois mixes in a corner of a room with zero treatment.

LOOKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL MACKIE 824'S TOO.

Daniel Lanois | Home

[lcressy]

Well, then there's your answer, get the Mackies and set up in a corner! But it doesn't look like a small room to me. In a small room ( which is what you originally asked), nodes and standing waves come into play where in a larger room, it may be a bit more forgiving. But Daniel Lanois isn't asking for advice on monitors, obviously, what he has works for him. I didn't respond to argue, just sharing my experience.......I bet you will find most mixes that translate well coming from control rooms that are properly treated, using whatever monitor the engineer knows really well.

[K Livingston]

I agree with you that the room affects the sound greatly. However, there has to be a monitor with a driver in the 6" area that will allow for your mixes to translate better regardless of the room you are in.

[ddash]

I like the dynaudio and JBL monitors alot.

I would go with the dynaudio bm5a. They put out some much sound for a little monitor. They have have great clarity,bass and the sound is just in front of you. The JBL were very nice also and I had no problem with anything about them. I like the 8 inch versions JBL monitors better tho.

[parachutestudio]

Originally Posted by Micah Tolentino

the 5a's are great for smallish rooms. I think sometimes they have TOO much bass and adequate bass trapping is a prerequisite to getting a good translation out of them. But once you get your bass under control the 5a's never disappoint. Very accurate and not fatiguing on the ears means more work = more money. I can trust them so much I can print without doing the "car check" anymore. thumbsup

I have to say I really agree on this. in our studio facilty we have both BM6A, BM5A and BM15A. Actually, BM5A compensates for not going deep by adding to the lower frequensies it can produce. And it works. Best value for money by far of the three aforementioned. Nice, clear and punchy. But not something for an untreated room.

[ButchP]

Ive got a 9.5' x14' room with very little treatment (back wall only) and my BM5a's bass is till pretty under control as long as my levels are lower (under 80db which is where I usualy track and mix).

Bass isn't BIG... its just tight and there and "real" ...everything else ..pretty much the consensus here... clear,nice depth and separation very easy on the ears........ Bm5a's in a small room for me.

BP

[K Livingston]

Originally Posted by parachutestudio

I have to say I really agree on this. in our studio facilty we have both BM6A, BM5A and BM15A. Actually, BM5A compensates for not going deep by adding to the lower frequensies it can produce. And it works. Best value for money by far of the three aforementioned. Nice, clear and punchy. But not something for an untreated room.

what nearfeild monitors are good for an un-treated room?

[lcressy]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are you so determined NOT to treat your room? For the price of any of the monitors mentioned, spent on Owens Corning 703, you will get more bang for your buck than with most other studio purchases. I am reading this post, and it is like asking what monitors defy the laws of physics? I don't know of any. The ARC, or ERGO are designed to work WITH acoustic treatment, not in place of. I would think that holds true of the JBL's as well. From what I am reading, the consensus is saying, "treat your room, and get the Dynaudio BM5A's. You asked the question, there's the answer. Now, if you are just waiting for someone the tell you what you want to hear, then I would ask the question more like, " Can I mix on Mackie 624's in an untreated small room with a low ceiling?" - Sure you can! The key to your original post is in the translation, and that requires the room treatment, sorry if you don't want to hear it, but it's true...................

[jx-10recorder]

I own the LSR 4328's i have to say that they have a very linier frequency responce. I knew that there were problems in the room and the JBLs did fix some of the problems....

I reciently added acoustic treement and the speakers sounded even better and more accurate. It not only fixed bass problems in the room but also imaging and overall room resonance.

I also could not mount any treament on the room due to restrictions. I ran the room correction (after treement) and it fixed the problem the celeings were causeing (it was around 150 hz.)

Listening was like night and day.

Have you thought about getting a decient set of mixing headphones? (You don't need treament.) I personally prefer monitors.

[Polychrest]

This guy's reviewing LSR 4328's, but his observations on how well the RMC system works should apply to the 4326's as well. JBL LSR4328P Studio Monitors

[K Livingston]

Originally Posted by jx-10recorder

I own the LSR 4328's i have to say that they have a very linier frequency responce. I knew that there were problems in the room and the JBLs did fix some of the problems....

I reciently added acoustic treement and the speakers sounded even better and more accurate. It not only fixed bass problems in the room but also imaging and overall room resonance.

I also could not mount any treament on the room due to restrictions. I ran the room correction (after treement) and it fixed the problem the celeings were causeing (it was around 150 hz.)

Listening was like night and day.

Have you thought about getting a decient set of mixing headphones? (You don't need treament.) I personally prefer monitors.

What are good headphones for mixing on?

I have the Sennheiser HD280pro set at the moment

[Chas3]

I wonder how the Focal CMS 65 or CMS 50 would compare to the BM5 and JBL.

[drakem]

Originally Posted by jx-10recorder

I own the LSR 4328's i have to say that they have a very linier frequency responce. I knew that there were problems in the room and the JBLs did fix some of the problems....

I reciently added acoustic treement and the speakers sounded even better and more accurate. It not only fixed bass problems in the room but also imaging and overall room resonance.

I also could not mount any treament on the room due to restrictions. I ran the room correction (after treement) and it fixed the problem the celeings were causeing (it was around 150 hz.)

Listening was like night and day.

Have you thought about getting a decient set of mixing headphones? (You don't need treament.) I personally prefer monitors.

I have them in the 5.1 setup. And I love them. Clarity and source localization are perfect. But they dont go as loud as some rap dudes would like.
I have the 6Bms as well. They are in my machine room waiting for a new editing room to be build.