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16th October 2005, 12:42 AM
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| high End Channel strip ... hello , yea yea im new here ... this forum looks good ... anyway , i need your advice here ... im looking for high end channel strip ... after serching and going ****ing crazy ... i got to the point wich i have to choose 2 and i never heard any of them , and also i dont have the option to hear them . so ... if you are using any of this ... pro's \ con's will be great , or maybe recommendation also will be great . some backround : im dooing Psy-Trance for 5 years and i need 2 high-end channel strips to run my master thru , so EQ MUST be the best and the mic pre also .. compressor will be good but not a must ... ok , im thinking of getting : 1. Vintech audio X81 - wich suppose to be Neve 1073 pre & 1081 EQ replica... 2. Amek Pure Path . i did alot of reserch on the web , but i dont really belive " newspapers" so im counting on you guys ... Thx alot !!! |
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16th October 2005, 02:17 AM
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 | my vote is for the Pendulum Audio Quartet
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16th October 2005, 02:30 AM
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16th October 2005, 02:39 AM
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| tetness...those look sweet...how much?$$$ 
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16th October 2005, 03:03 AM
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damm !!!! it is looks sweet !!! how much is it ?
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16th October 2005, 03:47 AM
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| If you like the sound of ass, I would go with the Vintech.
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16th October 2005, 05:37 AM
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Kenny, what's the point of your negativity? Are you trying to 'save' this guy? Where is the benefit to you? If it sounds like shit he'll send it packing back to wherever he bought it from, or sell it. It will become obviously apparent to even a tin ear hack if it sounds bad. Have you heard the X81 (that the guy says he is looking at)? I could be wrong, but I don't believe you have. In another thread you imply that you had your first introduction to Vintech. Their 1272 specifically. The X81 sounds very little like the Vintech 1272 that you just listened to. Of course you're entitled to your opinion (we all are right?), but you are making a jab at the integrity of a lot of people's ears. Unless the couple thousand people who are using these are deaf (or fools). I think a lot of gear sucks...but somehow I don't think it's appropriate to slam it everytime somebody mentions it on the forum (ESPECIALLY lumping their whole product line together based on the one black sheep of the line). If you hate Vintech, let me give you a little bit of industry insight. The more you talk poorly about something, the more it sells. It creates controversy...especially with Vintech in particular. You saying that it sounds like ass, probably just sold 10 pieces. Dallas will probably get ten new orders on Monday. Because people aren't going to take your word for it, they are going to want to know for themselves. So if you are going to continue on this path, you'll be unintentionally helping that which you dislike.
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16th October 2005, 05:52 AM
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16th October 2005, 06:13 AM
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 ........ nice ...
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16th October 2005, 06:16 AM
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i heard the 737sp wich sounded sweet to me , but i want somthing bigger , the avalon was good to me , but im looking for a channel strip that will blows me away and when ill listen , i know its there ... so im keep trying but i dont have all the $$$ in the world ...( actually not even ... )
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16th October 2005, 06:21 AM
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| You can't go wrong at all with a GML 2020. It's equal to getting a 8300 mic pre, 8200 eq, and 8900 dynamics. If there is a more solid option I would like to "hear" it. Hope this helps!! |
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16th October 2005, 06:27 AM
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| the 2020 is way expensive .... i need 2 ...
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16th October 2005, 07:13 AM
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| I just bought an avalon ad 2055 which I run into my Al Smart c2 comp,which goes to my apogee psx 100se.I'm very very very happy with my stereo signal path,but now I would like to add something else too maybe a pendulum limiter or something similar.Try looking at different combo's too. Though top class channel strips would be terrific as well.Making choices is hard when you have a budget. |
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16th October 2005, 07:30 AM
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. that is why I said A tube pre... If he wants more of a Wow effect.. The Portico "R , neve" is a really good alternitive http://www.rupertneve.com/ | |
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16th October 2005, 07:36 AM
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But I have trouble believing that they started out making crap and have now figured out how to do it right. They're still selling the 1272 unit. Right? For now I'm still considering the possibility that my unit was broken or something. And by the way. Your Logic may make some sense so ......... I've heard that Kenny Gioia's drum library really sucks ass. Peace.
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16th October 2005, 08:02 AM
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16th October 2005, 08:11 AM
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| Oh man, I can just see it. Now everyone's going to be posting here boasting about how much their gear sucks.  |
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16th October 2005, 10:58 AM
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16th October 2005, 11:15 AM
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16th October 2005, 03:55 PM
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| I dislike the idea of channel strips - UNLESS - you can have independant control over each of the components. There are a few that allow this and I have only tried one of them, the ones that come to mind (I am not saying this is a complete list) are the Pendulum Quartet, Buzz ARC, Focusrite ISA 430 MKII (tried this one - me like). I don't necessarily agree that the negative Vintech views on this site but it would also not be the first strip that I would consider. In terms of bang for the buck the AMEK CIB is an outstanding value ($1300 to $1400 USD). You can sometimes find 430 MKII's on Ebay for about $1900. If you liked it you could someday get another and you would have seperately operating stereo comressors and EQ's which could allow for more flexibility in the future. A lot of guys don't like to fuss around with patchng and things like that but if I had to spend the money I would buy the individual components I liked. Hope that helps, cheers.
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16th October 2005, 03:59 PM
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| Anyone had experience with Gyraf G2? ruudman |
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16th October 2005, 04:01 PM
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| After reading up on alot of posts on this forum, Ive noticed that you're a bit of a trouble maker Nathan. I'm not talking about the type of trouble maker that will start trouble and fight face on when confronted but the type of trouble maker that will start trouble and hide and watch from a distance as the trouble begins and have someone else do the fighting.  Your reply is a good example of this, by manipulating Kennys words. His opinion implying that other people out there are deaf or fools for liking the 1272. Your using his remarks and twisting it so that it clearly sounds like it directly offends people and so that they have to join the defence because they feel that it's their obligation. Then you try to sound like a good guy by saying everyone is entitled to their opinions.  Kenny, your opinion in regards to the 1272 has definitely made a loss on the 1272 sales. Maybe 1 or 2 or even 100. Why, because your opinion is based on, as an actual user and whos profession is in the field of audio. You have no clear alterior motive when you place your post in regards to your dislike unlike Nathan who as he arrogantly puts it is Atlas Proaudio.  Ive read on other forums how you butt yourself in on the 1073 wars with Vintech and Fletcher just to promote your company. You are really a shifty bugger.  You should take some pointers off that Fletcher guy on how to be a stand up guy in proaudio. On second thoughts, it's either you have it or you don't and you certainly don't have it.  The Vintech 1272 isn't bad, specially for those thousands who have already bought it and are new to the so called "neve" sound and the hype that goes with it. BA makes a better 1272 replica which is a better buy sonically if you can swing a few dollars more. Their customer support and email response is very good even to those international buyers.  |
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16th October 2005, 04:05 PM
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But then again, I should.. Jakob E. | |
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16th October 2005, 04:25 PM
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16th October 2005, 04:44 PM
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| Jakob, any ways to reverse the order of eq & comp? ruudman |
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16th October 2005, 05:09 PM
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| ok ... stop fighting here ... each person got his own opinion on gear , and what one hears , the second dont . its matter of taste only ... now to our thread here ... all i got is 5000 $ ( wich i think is nice .. ) i worked my ass really hard for this , and i want to get 1 channel strips that will worth this money , so i understand that people dont really like "vintech" , and amek looks good to me , but again , i heard that the "purepath" is really "clean" and accurate , im looking for alittle wormth and color ...
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16th October 2005, 06:49 PM
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Almost right. With 2 2020 you have 1 filter band less than with the 8200. But 2 2020 are cheaper than 1 8200 plus 1 8900 plus one 8302. And working with 2 2020 my be more convenient in a lot of situations. | |
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16th October 2005, 06:58 PM
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An anonymous poster (read: SHILL) with a total of two posts. Thanks for my entertainment for the day. Prost!
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16th October 2005, 07:55 PM
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 That's exactly what you’ve done (on this, and other forums) every time someone has mentioned the UA-610 preamp. | |
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