high End Channel strip ...

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Nemesys

now to our thread here ... all i got is 5000 $ ( wich i think is nice .. ) i worked my ass really hard for this , and i want to get 1 channel strips that will worth this money , so i understand that people dont really like "vintech" , and amek looks good to me , but again , i heard that the "purepath" is really "clean" and accurate , im looking for alittle wormth and color ...

For $5000.... And if I remember correctly you were looking for two channel strips, correct?

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the API 7600????? This thing is phenomenal!


http://apiaudio.com/7600.html

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

You saying that it sounds like ass, probably just sold 10 pieces. Dallas will probably get ten new orders on Monday. Because people aren't going to take your word for it, they are going to want to know for themselves. So if you are going to continue on this path, you'll be unintentionally helping that which you dislike.

10 pieces to who?

This is Gearslutz and you know around here you have some members that are the so called "sheepherders" and you have a lot of guys who don't even bother to try stuff out themselves and they are the so called "sheep".

If Kenny says it sounds like ass(which i do agree with him) i am more apt to trust his opinion since he is a Neve nut.

Now just because it sounds like ass doesn't make it useless.

An ass can be useful at times.

That's why we all have one.

[Mrs. Fairman]

Originally Posted by Nemesys

damm !!!! it is looks sweet !!! how much is it ?

http://www.truetrackrec.de/FairmanPricelistEU.htm

[Nemesys]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Fairman

http://www.truetrackrec.de/FairmanPricelistEU.htm

TMC - Tube Mastering Compressor € 6.495,50

TMEQ - Tube Mastering Equalizer € 7.145,50

TRC MK3 - Tube Recording Channel € 4.750,00

TSC switch - Tube Stereo Compressor € 4.100,50

TMA - Tube Microphone Amplifier € 4.850,50

maybe ... sometime.... yea right ...

[sedohr]

The Tube-Tech Channel looks pretty sexy too. I am seriously considering to trade in my Avalon 737 for this guy. Have anyone tried it ?

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by gogo

That's exactly what you’ve done (on this, and other forums) every time someone has mentioned the UA-610 preamp.

fuuck

Feel free to keep that middle finger to yourself, that's just plain rude. Why can't there be a discussion about Neve or Vintech around here without it degenerating into a free for all?


I did a quick search to see exactly what you are talking about, typing in "2-610" and my screen name "NathanEldred".


1) The last time I even mentioned the 2-610 on GS was about 14 months ago, so either there hasn't been a thread about a 2-610 since Summer of 2004 or you are exaggerating.

2) Never said it sounded like "ass" once, just that it wasn't my preference (and also specifically encouraged others to hear it to make up their own mind). I don't even think a Mackie sounds like "ass", it's just average at best. If something sounds like "ass" it's either user error or the unit is broken, or the source is bad.

3) Always was professional and gave specific constructive criticism.

Mainly my problems deal with the lack of headroom and how fast it breaks up at high gains. Those are legitamite concerns.



A thread with an example of what I said:

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...ighlight=2-610



4) I've heard the rest of the UA line, said I liked the La2a quite a lot, admitted I hadn't heard the 2108 at the time and felt the 1176 was decent but prefer other things a bit over it.

5) I also had about 5 x 2-610 units in my posession, so it wasn't a one off judgement, it was based on a larger sample of pieces.

Like I said, everybody has the right to their opinion, but maybe it's better for people to qualify it and do a little more thorough research instead of jumping the gun so quickly.

[Recman]

2 posts and anonymous. Is that your best defence for the day.

My 2 posts versus your 2000+ posts. Most of your posts Ive read seems like you posting to see your name and company as much as you can on every forum. Sorry, but after reading hundreds of posts and seing a pattern of the school kid syndrome. You remember back in school when kid A and kid B would be having an arguement in the schoolyard. And kid A would tease Kid B saying your mother is fat. And kid B would say, "so" and then thered be some little trouble maker kid, like you in the crowd that would go to kid B. Hey kid B, he just called your mother fat, what are you going to do about it. If your mothers fat, then your father must be a fatf%*er. Then the fight would start and the little trouble make kid would have this evil grin at the trouble hes started while he sits back and watches. You get my drift.

Nathan, if it's offended you, sorry, but like you said, everyones entitled to their own opinions. I hope my opinion hasn't questioned your validity as a poster or your posts which is the same way you have questioned the validity of Kennys posts and opinions?

Check out the Chandler stuff if you want some warmth or colour.

[True North]

Originally Posted by sedohr

The Tube-Tech Channel looks pretty sexy too. I am seriously considering to trade in my Avalon 737 for this guy. Have anyone tried it ?

I own the MEC1A and I would probably say there is no sweeter strip on the planet for vocals. As I metioned earlier I prefer having idependant control over each individual component. You could probably acheive similar results by getting a CL1B and an MP1A (stereo mic pre) and end up with more flexiblity in the end. Just my two cents!

Cheers!

[Prickstein]

WTF has hapened to Gearslutz in the last week?

[Kestral]

I kinda have to agree with Kenny, the Vintechs aren't close enough to the real thing for my own tastes.

[natpub]

Originally Posted by Prickstein

WTF has hapened to Gearslutz in the last week?

agreed, things need to chill a little

[Rep]

Originally Posted by Recman

2 posts and anonymous. Is that your best defence for the day.

My 2 posts versus your 2000+ posts. Most of your posts Ive read seems like you posting to see your name and company as much as you can on every forum. Sorry, but after reading hundreds of posts and seing a pattern of the school kid syndrome. You remember back in school when kid A and kid B would be having an arguement in the schoolyard. And kid A would tease Kid B saying your mother is fat. And kid B would say, "so" and then thered be some little trouble maker kid, like you in the crowd that would go to kid B. Hey kid B, he just called your mother fat, what are you going to do about it. If your mothers fat, then your father must be a fatf%*er. Then the fight would start and the little trouble make kid would have this evil grin at the trouble hes started while he sits back and watches. You get my drift.

Nathan, if it's offended you, sorry, but like you said, everyones entitled to their own opinions. I hope my opinion hasn't questioned your validity as a poster or your posts which is the same way you have questioned the validity of Kennys posts and opinions?

Check out the Chandler stuff if you want some warmth or colour.

One thing you will notice (That you are right about here) is as soon as you say "High end..... such and such GEAR... what should I get...
You will get all the dealers out posting " Help-full advice" , about a product they conveniently sell....
on occasions they will even contradict and say something good about the other stuff,
just so they sound Truthful about the other times they are drumming up business..
( that is the Exact reason I don't buy from Fletcher)
so I have spent about 60 thousand dollars in the last years,
to other places that are not a poppas and blatant ,
in the sales herding and fishing.
Just take the advice from the people USING the equipment,
Not the ones SELLING It.

[gyraf]

Originally Posted by Ruudman

Jakob,
any ways to reverse the order of eq & comp?

Yep - has a "comp pre/post eq switch"

http://www.gyraf.dk/g2/index.html

Jakob E.

[Mike Chafee]

Originally Posted by Nemesys

ok ... stop fighting here ... each person got his own opinion on gear , and what one hears , the second dont .

its matter of taste only ...

now to our thread here ... all i got is 5000 $ ( wich i think is nice .. ) i worked my ass really hard for this , and i want to get 1 channel strips that will worth this money , so i understand that people dont really like "vintech" , and amek looks good to me , but again , i heard that the "purepath" is really "clean" and accurate , im looking for alittle wormth and color ...

You are close to being able to buy 2 Millenia Origins.

[Tone Laborer]

I've got 3 "channel strips" I've been lusting over for awhile

api 7600
Great River, mp1-nv + nv-eq (?) + distressor
Millennia stt-1

If you can't make great sound with either of those , somethings'wrong.
I'd take the api-----I think.

Nathan always seems to catch shit over something. I never find his posts offensive. On the contrary, I find them informative. It never fails to amaze me how some of you take everything so freaking PERSONAL.

Some of you sluts could manage to start a pissing match over which hand to wank with.

[Yoni]

Originally Posted by Recman

After reading up on alot of posts on this forum, Ive noticed that you're a bit of a trouble maker Nathan. I'm not talking about the type of trouble maker that will start trouble and fight face on when confronted but the type of trouble maker that will start trouble and hide and watch from a distance as the trouble begins and have someone else do the fighting.

Your reply is a good example of this, by manipulating Kennys words. His opinion implying that other people out there are deaf or fools for liking the 1272. Your using his remarks and twisting it so that it clearly sounds like it directly offends people and so that they have to join the defence because they feel that it's their obligation.

Then you try to sound like a good guy by saying everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Kenny, your opinion in regards to the 1272 has definitely made a loss on the 1272 sales. Maybe 1 or 2 or even 100. Why, because your opinion is based on, as an actual user and whos profession is in the field of audio. You have no clear alterior motive when you place your post in regards to your dislike unlike Nathan who as he arrogantly puts it is Atlas Proaudio. fuuck

Ive read on other forums how you butt yourself in on the 1073 wars with Vintech and Fletcher just to promote your company. You are really a shifty bugger. You should take some pointers off that Fletcher guy on how to be a stand up guy in proaudio. On second thoughts, it's either you have it or you don't and you certainly don't have it.

The Vintech 1272 isn't bad, specially for those thousands who have already bought it and are new to the so called "neve" sound and the hype that goes with it. BA makes a better 1272 replica which is a better buy sonically if you can swing a few dollars more. Their customer support and email response is very good even to those international buyers.

I dunno, seems like you're the troublemaker to me. Didn't Kenny already admit to Nathan's point a few posts back?

[nek]

Originally Posted by Nemesys

im dooing Psy-Trance for 5 years and i need 2 high-end channel strips to run my master thru , so EQ MUST be the best and the mic pre also .. compressor will be good but not a must ...

Question:
If you running a 2trk master through this (whatever you buy), why do you need a mic pre? A 2trk master would be a line level source.

It sounds to me like you only need two good EQs and a stereo compressor.

Maybe something like a GML 8200 for EQ and GML 8900 for compression.

One more thing if you buy two channel strips with compressors, how are you going to stereo link them? If you don't you will have image-shift ever time the compressors engage.

(or am I crazy or something? )

[Sqye]

Somehow, it seems as if people are wasting more time blaming and criticizing each OTHER than they are the fr*ggin gear. Dudes, this isn't dudeslutz, it's gear slutz! Focus on the gear.

FWIW, I did a short a-b comparison between the Focusrite 220 and the 430, and while the 430 definitely gives more user control, it didn't necessrily SOUND better to me - any opinions on this?

Also, this isn't necessarily relevant at this thread, because a WOW factor is required. The Focusrite is not a Neve, nor is it an API, nor is it a Distressor, etc., but still pretty present, detailed, and I really like the eq alot.

In terms of efficiency and price, I was pretty impressed with the 220. But for 5k, you can get into Chandler, etc. There are plenty of options available for less than that, though - such as the 7th Circle, API 7600, etc. Too many options, also depends on what you're using it for.

JMHO

[GPl]

Originally Posted by Produceher

Alright. Alright. Point taken. No I haven't heard the X73 or whatever it's called.

But I have trouble believing that they started out making crap and have now figured out how to do it right. They're still selling the 1272 unit. Right?

For now I'm still considering the possibility that my unit was broken or something.

And by the way. Your Logic may make some sense so .........

I've heard that Kenny Gioia's drum library really sucks ass.

Peace.

I'll Take 10 Copies!!!!

[LeeStoker]

I have been a lingerer for about a year and I finally registered so hello to all.
These don't get much attention here but I bought a pair of ChameleonLabs 7602 channel strips last month from Pacific Pro-Audio in Seattle. These sound great I have used them on Kick and snare vocals ect. the eq's kick ass they are quiet and run cool. And by most standars cheap, they are made in China but take a look inside they are compleley handmade with everything neat and tidy. I paid $1445.00 with tax for the pair and he said If I don't like them send them back well I am not sending them back. They are definately mor aggresive than Avalon 737's and not as dirty as a vintech 1272.

[Nemesys]

Originally Posted by nek

Question:
If you running a 2trk master through this (whatever you buy), why do you need a mic pre? A 2trk master would be a line level source.

It sounds to me like you only need two good EQs and a stereo compressor.

Maybe something like a GML 8200 for EQ and GML 8900 for compression.

One more thing if you buy two channel strips with compressors, how are you going to stereo link them? If you don't you will have image-shift ever time the compressors engage.

(or am I crazy or something? )

you maybe right ... but i was thinking to stereo link the channel strips , before i was thinking to get the avalon 747sp as a stereo compressor and a killer mic pre , maybe neve , any sugesstion ?

i realy need your help here guys , you know better then me .

ps , im also using tc finalizer 96k for mastering ...

[Tone Laborer]

Originally Posted by nek

Question:
One more thing if you buy two channel strips with compressors, how are you going to stereo link them? If you don't you will have image-shift ever time the compressors engage.

(or am I crazy or something? )

The api 7600 compressors have a link option.

[Alexi]

hey guys,

how about a - STOP OF THE VINTECH WARS -

some people (http://blacklodgerecording.com/news/) like their stuff, some don't........



cheers