Chandler Limited Mini Rack Mixer as Summing Mixer

siloo · 30th September 2005, 05:52 PM

I am considering looking into the Chandler Limited Mini Mixer as both a summing and keyboard mixer. It seems to me that the cost per channel is pretty dang good at around $750. Is there any reason to consider other options? I'm rather new to this whole "summing" solution idea.

Thanks,

siloo

Mike Caffrey · 1st October 2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by siloo

I am considering looking into the Chandler Limited Mini Mixer as both a summing and keyboard mixer. It seems to me that the cost per channel is pretty dang good at around $750. Is there any reason to consider other options? I'm rather new to this whole "summing" solution idea.

Thanks,

siloo

There are a lot of summing mixers that are good. I'm pretty sure none have the identical features of the Chandler. Most don't have volume and panning controls for every input. I don't know of any that are all discrete with input transformers on every channel. If that's important to you, I don't think you have any other options.

It sounds great.

siloo · 1st October 2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Caffrey

There are a lot of summing mixers that are good. I'm pretty sure none have the identical features of the Chandler. Most don't have volume and panning controls for every input. I don't know of any that are all discrete with input transformers on every channel. If that's important to you, I don't think you have any other options.

It sounds great.

Thanks for your input. I'm only gonna do this once, so I want to make sure I'm not throwing good money after bad. So far, I have discovered what you said to be true. It sounds as though you've had some experience with it. Can it be driven fairly hard for color or does it impart a mostly transparent sound?

Thanks again,

-siloo

RoundBadge · 1st October 2005, 11:39 PM

Hey Siloo..Wait till after AES...you'll have more choices
lots of new stuff coming out...Neve, Shadow Hills, Tonelux...etc...
try to demo before you buy...
I tried the Chandler..it wasn't the one for me
But you might love it...lot's of people do

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd October 2005, 12:30 AM

Yep... AES is 6 days away.....

Fletcher · 2nd October 2005, 01:56 PM

One of the coolest things about the Chandler is the whole 'talkback/communication' feature that gives an added flexibility besides just mixing outside the box... it helps the whole recording process move in a much smoother manner... which helps performances get better, which leads to better records, yada, yada, yada...

TheSweetener · 2nd October 2005, 06:56 PM

But most of the external monitor controllers simply have more useful features than the ones in the Chandler mixer or the new Neve summing box. If you want it simple and don't have different headphone mixes to do or CDs, DATs, Minidiscs to listen to.....go for it!

Mike Caffrey · 4th October 2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSweetener

But most of the external monitor controllers simply have more useful features than the ones in the Chandler mixer or the new Neve summing box. If you want it simple and don't have different headphone mixes to do or CDs, DATs, Minidiscs to listen to.....go for it!

Many of those boxes are good values for their price and they price point is different enough from the Chandler that they probably shouldn't be compared to the Chandler.

But since you have.... soncially, next to the Chandler, they're a joke.

It's not hard to pack a lot of features in to a box and keep the price down - unless one of the features is sound quality.

TheSweetener · 4th October 2005, 08:43 AM

Sorry. I would not call the SPL a controller a joke! (Just an example)
Not feature- not soundwise!

And I don't think that the control room section of the Chandler makes the mixer so much more expensive.

And even if you call all the other boxes a joke, still if you need some features (to do multible headphone mixes at the same time) the Chandler box simply won't help you.
So you have to buy one of these jokeboxes on top!

RKrizman · 4th October 2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by siloo

I am considering looking into the Chandler Limited Mini Mixer as both a summing and keyboard mixer. It seems to me that the cost per channel is pretty dang good at around $750. Is there any reason to consider other options? I'm rather new to this whole "summing" solution idea.

$750 per channel for a summing box and keyboard mixer? Is it really that expensive? I can't imagine why it would cost so much--there are no preamps or eq are there?

-R

kenkelly81 · 4th October 2005, 10:17 PM

I have the API 7800 and 8200 combo. It works for me.

It doesn't have a dedicated headphone section and a few other things that might be nice to have but it's O.K.
I think I would rather have the Chandler.

Any one else out there use the API's?

Or can you compare it with the Chandler?

KC

RoundBadge · 5th October 2005, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kenkelly81

I have the API 7800 and 8200 combo. It works for me.

It doesn't have a dedicated headphone section and a few other things that might be nice to have but it's O.K.
I think I would rather have the Chandler.

Any one else out there use the API's?

Or can you compare it with the Chandler?

KC

Yeah,had the Chandler and API here for about a month..
I prefered the API

But then I preferd the vintage Api Console [3288] over the 8200 combo anyways.. [much warmer /musical to my ears].

The only one i've found usable so far is the Phoenix N-16

but then again.I just really need a small console again...
Hence my conversations with Pete from Shadow Hills.

kenkelly81 · 5th October 2005, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the reply Roundbadge.

The Shadow Hills stuff looks great I can't wait to A/B there summing unit against my API setup.

I see they have a lot of the stuff up on Vintage Kings site but that doesn't mean it's available yet.

I'll have to give Mike a call.

KC

Mike Caffrey · 5th October 2005, 08:49 AM

I'm not familiar with the SPL box. There are a bunch of others that people refer to all the time and those are the ones I though it was being compared to.

The Chandler is all discrete and had transformers on every input. That's a very expensive way to do things and thus the $750/ Channel.

ignatius · 11th October 2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Caffrey

The Chandler is all discrete and had transformers on every input. That's a very expensive way to do things and thus the $750/ Channel.

are there direct outs on each channel so you can track thru it? it'd be great to take advantage of that chandler tone.

i can't find out that info anywhere.. nothing in the downloadable pdf and ther eare no pics ofthe back of the minimixer anywhere. in the reviews i've read nothing is mentioned.. well, vaguely in the mix mag review...

RoundBadge · 11th October 2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ignatius

are there direct outs on each channel so you can track thru it? it'd be great to take advantage of that chandler tone.

i can't find out that info anywhere.. nothing in the downloadable pdf and ther eare no pics ofthe back of the minimixer anywhere. in the reviews i've read nothing is mentioned.. well, vaguely in the mix mag review...

no direct outputs..
it's 16 x 2 .
you can sum any number of channels to the 2 outputs though..

I have one right here:

ignatius · 11th October 2006, 09:25 PM

thanks roundbadge

RoundBadge · 11th October 2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ignatius

thanks roundbadge

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siloo Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 20	Chandler Limited Mini Rack Mixer as Summing Mixer I am considering looking into the Chandler Limited Mini Mixer as both a summing and keyboard mixer. It seems to me that the cost per channel is pretty dang good at around $750. Is there any reason to consider other options? I'm rather new to this whole "summing" solution idea. Thanks, siloo

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Fletcher member no 666 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Foxboro, MA USA Posts: 5,773	One of the coolest things about the Chandler is the whole 'talkback/communication' feature that gives an added flexibility besides just mixing outside the box... it helps the whole recording process move in a much smoother manner... which helps performances get better, which leads to better records, yada, yada, yada... __________________ Fletcher "I'm not really an asshole... I just play one on the internet" [author unknown] R/E/P the Recording Engineer and Producer forums Mercenary Audio the small drinking company with a large audio problem mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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1st October 2005, 11:39 PM	#4
RoundBadge Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca. Posts: 5,560	Hey Siloo..Wait till after AES...you'll have more choices lots of new stuff coming out...Neve, Shadow Hills, Tonelux...etc... try to demo before you buy... I tried the Chandler..it wasn't the one for me But you might love it...lot's of people do

2nd October 2005, 06:56 PM	#7
TheSweetener Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 948	But most of the external monitor controllers simply have more useful features than the ones in the Chandler mixer or the new Neve summing box. If you want it simple and don't have different headphone mixes to do or CDs, DATs, Minidiscs to listen to.....go for it!

4th October 2005, 08:43 AM	#9
TheSweetener Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 948	Sorry. I would not call the SPL a controller a joke! (Just an example) Not feature- not soundwise! And I don't think that the control room section of the Chandler makes the mixer so much more expensive. And even if you call all the other boxes a joke, still if you need some features (to do multible headphone mixes at the same time) the Chandler box simply won't help you. So you have to buy one of these jokeboxes on top!

4th October 2005, 10:17 PM	#11
kenkelly81 Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 195	I have the API 7800 and 8200 combo. It works for me. It doesn't have a dedicated headphone section and a few other things that might be nice to have but it's O.K. I think I would rather have the Chandler. Any one else out there use the API's? Or can you compare it with the Chandler? KC

5th October 2005, 06:00 AM	#13
kenkelly81 Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 195	Thanks for the reply Roundbadge. The Shadow Hills stuff looks great I can't wait to A/B there summing unit against my API setup. I see they have a lot of the stuff up on Vintage Kings site but that doesn't mean it's available yet. I'll have to give Mike a call. KC

5th October 2005, 08:49 AM	#14
Mike Caffrey Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,560	I'm not familiar with the SPL box. There are a bunch of others that people refer to all the time and those are the ones I though it was being compared to. The Chandler is all discrete and had transformers on every input. That's a very expensive way to do things and thus the $750/ Channel.

11th October 2006, 09:25 PM	#17
ignatius Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 915	thanks roundbadge