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Old 29th November 2009   #1
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"Real" subwoofer recommendation?

I'm looking for a recommendation on a real subwoofer, one that goes below 20Hz with ease and will put out enough SPL to keep up with ATC 300s in a large (8,500 cubic feet) control room. For 5.1 use.

Plenty of loud, pro subs out there, but most do not go down to below 20Hz +/-3 dB.

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hey greg,

how about the bag-ends stuff?

btw don't you have the focal twins with a sub? how do you like that setup.

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PMC XB3 may be?
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Genelec 7073.

Genelec 7073A - DVD Plaza Forums

or several of these sealed box DIY models:

http://www.dvdplaza.fi/forums/showthread.php?t=65825

all tested subs at:
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Hi,

I'm also inclined to recommend Genelec 7073A. Also 7071A might be enough but hard to tell without trying first.

BTW, one thing about the tests linked by Petrus (I know because I did them ), all Genelecs have a thermal protection circuit which kicked in during long sine sweeps. With typical real world signals protection won't kick in, i.e. they will deliver much more clean SPL.
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Thanks, guys. The 7073a looks perfect!

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Maybe check out the Velodyne or JL Subs
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Need to go below 20 hz in a big room
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or a volt driver in a big box .. Yeah that's my plan as bassboxpro gets here
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I have Genelec 7071A with ADAM S3A, and the ADAMs turn themselves off much earlier than the 7071A. Actually the sub has never needed the thermal protection so far, even with the bigger main monitors I used to have.

Basically a pair of 7071 is the same as one 7073, more flexible positioning, "stereo" bass, more expencive.
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or a volt driver in a big box .. Yeah that's my plan as bassboxpro gets here
Interestingly PMC XB3s are one large Volt driver in a big box while the Genelec is a bunch of smaller Volt drivers in a big box. Both seem to reach 17Hz in room.
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Interestingly PMC XB3s are one large Volt driver in a big box while the Genelec is a bunch of smaller Volt drivers in a big box. Both seem to reach 17Hz in room.
No Volt drivers in Genelec subwoofers, if that's what you meant?
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That is what I meant, mostly because Volt lists Genelec as customers on their website and bass drivers is all they make.

But obviously you are closer to the truth and I stand corrected!
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No Volt drivers in Genelec subwoofers, if that's what you meant?
Peerles XLS-12 modified, then?
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That is what I meant, mostly because Volt lists Genelec as customers on their website and bass drivers is all they make.

But obviously you are closer to the truth and I stand corrected!
Volts website hasn't been changed in years. So that could be very old information, but I know Quested still uses them and for the price of 2 vs1115s....
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Peerles XLS-12 modified, then?
Correct.
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Volts website hasn't been changed in years. So that could be very old information, but I know Quested still uses them and for the price of 2 vs1115s....
It has to be very old information as far as I know.
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JL Audio Fathom 112 is great!


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My boss uses a Velodyne and its great. He runs it with a bypass so he can monitor with and without sub. Its super punchy so its great for pop mixes. I have the Blue Sky system and while it might not be high end, the sub is really great and goes very low. I've done some dance mixing and the super low end thump translates well.

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I auditioned a REL Brittania B1 and JL Audio fathom f112 recently for the mastering room.

The fathom is incredibly tight and detailed, can hold a convincing organ tone like nothing else I know, and in my room at least goes to 16-17Hz.

The REL was a disappointment, especially after all the positive things I'd heard about it.

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