Please user comments-racked Telefunken V376b & Neumann U473a - it is high end sound?

Factorysounds · 24th November 2009, 01:20 AM

T&S V376b with Neumann U473a - do You have any real comments?

Is this sound for vocals really good and pro for today from such old items?

What type of sound for pre and comp it is? More clear or colored?

Thanks in advance for any comments about this combo!

peeceebee · 24th November 2009, 06:23 PM

Haven't worked with those particular modules...

However all the neumann and tele ss modules I've ever heard have excellent sound- GREAT transformers in those puppies.
I have several different modules in my studio, first call every session.
The electrolytic caps should probable be upgraded, though-

nigel saunders · 24th November 2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Factorysounds

T&S V376b with Neumann U473a - do You have any real comments?

Is this sound for vocals really good and pro for today from such old items?

What type of sound for pre and comp it is? More clear or colored?

Thanks in advance for any comments about this combo!

I have 276 and 672. Sold my pair of 376 because they were very similar to my 276's ( the guy that bought them emailed to how please he was with them).
They are fantastic with 76db of gain. great for ribbon mics.
Sound good on anything really - you cant go wrong if they are in good nick.

jmikeperkins · 26th November 2009, 01:37 AM

The Neumann u473a compressor works great and sounds wonderful if you just need some minor to moderate, transparent sounding compression. It does not work so well if you want to crush something to death. You would want something like an 1176 or a dbx 160VU for severe compression, but for the mild stuff the Neumann U473a would work fine. I would consider a Neumann U473b to be high end. Please note the U473b (and a model) are very different from the earlier TAB made Telefunken U373a or the Siemens u273 (a and b). Still great, just very different sounding. Most all of the Neumann branded mic pres, compressors, and eq modules are really nice and worth owning. They were very expensive to manufacture in the day and Neumann lost so much money making them they shut the operation down and stuck to making just mics.

I own 8 TAB made Telefunken V376 mic pres which were made in the 1960's and early 1970's and they are some of the finest mic pres ever made. HOWEVER, THE V376b IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL FROM THE 1980'S with different transformers, op amps and probably some integrated circuits. Its probably a decent pre, as most of the German broadcast modules, even the later ones, were good but its not a vintage classic like the much older TAB made V376. I would try and find a real V376 (no "a" or "b" after it), a Siemens made V276, or a later (mid late 70's) TAB made V676a. But then again, I do not know what you are paying for the V376b. If its a good enough deal, then it may be worth buying.

Factorysounds · 26th November 2009, 01:45 PM

I have offer for this combo racked and in great condition for 1300GBP.
What You think? It is good price?

mig27 · 26th November 2009, 03:35 PM

That's a tad too much if you ask me.

These are the average going rates for raw modules on german eBay:
U473a: € 300
V376: € 250

Add some € for service and racking, but I definitely end up under 1000GBP.

My 2 €-cents

Michael

Factorysounds · 26th November 2009, 08:48 PM

Ok, but if we tried to create comparison of this combo with any similar good-known preamp/compressor for similar price, for example LA-610, AVALON or Great River? For the same price, what is + and - for this vintage custom unit?

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24th November 2009, 06:23 PM	#2
peeceebee Gear addict Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 319	Haven't worked with those particular modules... However all the neumann and tele ss modules I've ever heard have excellent sound- GREAT transformers in those puppies. I have several different modules in my studio, first call every session. The electrolytic caps should probable be upgraded, though-

26th November 2009, 01:37 AM	#4
jmikeperkins Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 425	The Neumann u473a compressor works great and sounds wonderful if you just need some minor to moderate, transparent sounding compression. It does not work so well if you want to crush something to death. You would want something like an 1176 or a dbx 160VU for severe compression, but for the mild stuff the Neumann U473a would work fine. I would consider a Neumann U473b to be high end. Please note the U473b (and a model) are very different from the earlier TAB made Telefunken U373a or the Siemens u273 (a and b). Still great, just very different sounding. Most all of the Neumann branded mic pres, compressors, and eq modules are really nice and worth owning. They were very expensive to manufacture in the day and Neumann lost so much money making them they shut the operation down and stuck to making just mics. I own 8 TAB made Telefunken V376 mic pres which were made in the 1960's and early 1970's and they are some of the finest mic pres ever made. HOWEVER, THE V376b IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL FROM THE 1980'S with different transformers, op amps and probably some integrated circuits. Its probably a decent pre, as most of the German broadcast modules, even the later ones, were good but its not a vintage classic like the much older TAB made V376. I would try and find a real V376 (no "a" or "b" after it), a Siemens made V276, or a later (mid late 70's) TAB made V676a. But then again, I do not know what you are paying for the V376b. If its a good enough deal, then it may be worth buying.

26th November 2009, 01:45 PM	#5
Factorysounds Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 69	I have offer for this combo racked and in great condition for 1300GBP. What You think? It is good price?

26th November 2009, 03:35 PM	#6
mig27 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Berlin Posts: 599	That's a tad too much if you ask me. These are the average going rates for raw modules on german eBay: U473a: € 300 V376: € 250 Add some € for service and racking, but I definitely end up under 1000GBP. My 2 €-cents Michael

26th November 2009, 08:48 PM	#7
Factorysounds Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 69	Ok, but if we tried to create comparison of this combo with any similar good-known preamp/compressor for similar price, for example LA-610, AVALON or Great River? For the same price, what is + and - for this vintage custom unit?