Most efficient way to create a parallel drum sub on SSL

[ixnys]

In PT I usually create sends on each drum track, set them to pre fader, and bus them to a stereo aux track. I will compress this stereo aux and blend it with the original drum submix.

On an SSL would I basically do the same thing? Let's say I designate channel 15 and 16 to be the channels that I bus all of my drums to. When I bus over the mono sources like kick in snare, do I bus them to both 15 and 16? Do I have to worry about having a snare panned hard left and hard right? I wouldn't want that to happen.

[djui5]

No..SSL has a nice bussing structre for things like this. You could send the signal post small fader to a pair of busses like 41/42, then set channels 41/42 to receive signal from their busses. No patching required for transfering signal, only inserted outboard if you'd like (I'm sure you would). You could also send the signal post small or large fader to either of the 4 (ABCD) main busses and patch outboard on those inserts. Or you could patch direct out's of the channles in mention (if you had a stere pair for instance), and then patch outboard into the chain and return on a pair fo Large faders.....or or or or ...there's so many ways. If you send post large fader to the busses, it goes post pan too. If you send post small fader, you pan depending on which buss your sending to. Left for odd numbers, right for even.

Which SSL are you talking about BTW? Above ways are for a 9000J....and I'm sure there are more ways than that to route signal for buss compression. I can't remember them all without being in front one. 4K is going to be different, and I'm not sure if there are any new routing options on the XL9K..I haven't used it. 6000 should be more like 9000J I believe...haven't used one in a long time and don't remember.


You can't really do things like this inside Pro-Tools, because it dosen't have a traditional console bussing system. It's a different way of working....neither is necessarialy better...

[ixnys]

Well the studio I go to has a J 9000 and an E 6000

[ixnys]

So let's say I press group ready on channels 41 and 42. For overhead left I'll bus it to 41. For overhead right I'll bus it to 42. However for my kick and snare what bus do I choose? Both 41 and 42? If on the small fader I press "output" which means post fader it will keep my kick and snare panned up the middle right?

I understand I can have the designated group outputs going to a compressor and then returned on some other channels. The main thing I want to understand is how to keep the same panning that I've got going on with my large faders.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by ixnys

So let's say I press group ready on channels 41 and 42. For overhead left I'll bus it to 41. For overhead right I'll bus it to 42. However for my kick and snare what bus do I choose? Both 41 and 42? If on the small fader I press "output" which means post fader it will keep my kick and snare panned up the middle right?

Buss them to both 41 and 42. Pan it center. Make sure 41 and 42 are panned hard left and right of course (large fader)

If you do it post small fader (output), it goes post pan..so if you want it center, pan it center....

I understand I can have the designated group outputs going to a compressor and then returned on some other channels. The main thing I want to understand is how to keep the same panning that I've got going on with my large faders.

This is all in how you send to the group outputs. Just make sure you have the sends panned the same as the large fader pans (unless going post large fader...then it will go where the large fader is panned), make sure you have the return channels panned hard and left, and you'll be fine.


I think you get the idea. Just remember, it's all in the sends...and sending to a buss on the buss matrix isn't any different than the large fader being sent to the stereo buss...it's just a different buss. The 9J gives you a ton of options on sending to the buss matrix or sending to one of the ABCD busses...

[ixnys]

Cool. Thanks.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by ixnys

Cool. Thanks.

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