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24th July 2009
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| Gear interested Joined: Jul 2009
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Thread Starter | Brauner Valvet X , Brauner Valvet or Manley Cardoid Ref??
How much better is the Brauner Valvet than the Valvet X or Man Car Ref? I need it for modern Teen pop and R&B. Please Advise.
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24th July 2009
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| 70% coffee & 30% beer  Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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With that said, they are in the same "realm" of possibility. The Manley RefC is a wonderful microphone at its price range, and offers some very cool "air" and clarity @ the top, [a lightness of HF and atmospheric dimension and depth] The RefC has a very "authoritative" bottom octave, [as all Manley Amplifiers offer] and I think its a great microphone for your applications. The Valvet, is one of my favorite tube mikes for intimate vocals, acoustic instruments and anything with strings. Its intensely musical with its fullness, body and light, balanced tone. I would certainly describe it similar to the RefC, but perhaps there is slightly more boldness and balance to the mid range. That microphone seems to sound exactly like a good u67 when "hugged".
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24th July 2009
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| Gear Head Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Hamburg
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 Just rent them and listen to them for yourself. I've never tried the Valvet but I use the Vma and the Ref C on a regular basis and the Manley will definitely give you that "airy" top end you're looking for. Btw a couple of months ago the tube in the Ref C I use in the Studio I work for got bad and we replaced it with a nos RFT 12AX7 and it sounds great... | |
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24th July 2009
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| Gear interested Joined: Jul 2009
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Thanks for the feedback. Just so I'm clear. Are you saying that the Valvet won't give me that "airy" modern sound? Also, How does the Valvet X compare to the other two ?
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25th July 2009
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio
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I own both a Valvet and a Manley Reference Gold and have used the Reference Cardioid and they are all just different flavors of awesome. You probably wouldn't go wrong with any of them.
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27th July 2009
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I'm in the exact same position. I'm about to buy one of the two mics. I love the Valvet but never heard the Ref C. Ive heard the Gold tho and loved it. Its a tough choice. Would be great if there were shootout clips out there. |
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27th July 2009
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| Gear interested Joined: Jul 2009
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I need to know if anyone has the Valvet X and how it compares to the Valvet. Someone I spoke to said that the Valvet X has a warmer sound and is still airy, has a nice top end and that it may be a better buy. Any insight on this?
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27th July 2009
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| Gear Head  Joined: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Workin' on some REFGOLD vs. REFCARD audio examples this very month...they'll get posted to our website and our Facebook group when done! Just sayin'.
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27th July 2009
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2006
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To my ears the Valvet X sounds very natural, clear and rich - "open" but not hyped in the top end. The transient response is very good too so it's great for stringed instruments (e.g. guitars, mandolin) as well. Love this mic :-) Hope that helps. Oliver | |
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27th July 2009
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| Gear interested Joined: Jul 2009
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Thanks for the info. Anyone compare the Valvet X to the Valvet?
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