Speck Lilo First Impressions?

Ghost Logic · 25th August 2005

Anyone out there actually had a chance to use the Speck Lilo? First impressions etc.? How does it compare soundwise to the other summing boxes (or to the Xtramix etc.)?

Fletcher · 26th August 2005

It's very clear sounding... and very flexible. On a sonic level it's probably closer to the Dangerous stuff than most of the other summing boxes I've heard with the possible exception of the Folcrum with John Hardy pre's.

wolfhound · 11th October 2005

So I checked out the LiLo at AES this weekend, and I've got to say I was REALLY impressed!

Does anyone own one of these?

Fletcher, do you have one hooked up to demo if I came to Boston?

-wolfie

jdunn · 11th October 2005

I've been wondering if anyone has actually bought one. Maybe the price is a little high for most. It does look like a very nice setup though.

wolfhound · 11th October 2005

Maybe, although per input it's a steal....16 channels of Tonelux with manual faders (the alternative I'm considering) would be at least as much.....plus there's the whole B-path thing....

wolfhound · 13th October 2005

anybody? .... anybody? ......

Calistro · 14th October 2005

The Lilo is the Mixer of choice in my studio.
Hey i think i have the best studio in the world and the Lilo is part of that reason.
I'll bet its cleaner than any Neve or SSL board.
I can get all the color I want out of a vast selection of outboard gear that can easily be inserted in the balanced insert jacks on every channel of the Lilo.
I can also get color from using different pres. So the mixer is the one place i dont want to be locked into a certain color.
I feed the board from an ApogeeDA16X into the main channels with faders and then my 16 tracks of keyboards get fed live into the B line inputs. (without faders) so I have a 32 channel mixer plus 2 stereo effects returns (36 channels)

Craig C.
CalistroMusic.com

electric · 14th October 2005

i got the xsum which i believe has a similiar summing circuit topology. (same op amps etc) however, fletcher and of course vince would know better. feed it with 2 apogee da-16's and also 7 channels of analog synths and have tons of great outboard eq and compression in between (pultecs /api/fearns/la-2a's/distressors etc). this is where you can dial in the color. i LOVE this new setup. i think i rival much bigger studios in terms of sonics i can achieve.

if you are scared on dropping $$$ for lilo , try out the xsum first. might give you a good idea of the sound you'll get. or get the xsum and a ton more outboard for the same price thumbsup .

regards,
electric

ttauri · 15th October 2005

Electric, with the Xsum, what do you do as far as monitoring the summed output?

Peece,
T. Tauri

Fletcher · 15th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfhound

So I checked out the LiLo at AES this weekend, and I've got to say I was REALLY impressed!

Does anyone own one of these?

Fletcher, do you have one hooked up to demo if I came to Boston?

-wolfie

If you drop by Foxboro in a couple/three weeks when we're done with wiring and monitor tuning... yeah. In fact, you'll be able to A/B probably even A/B/C summing busses, converters, and all kinds of multichannel systems and events... we've been working on systems where you'll be able to A/B up to 32 inputs simultaneously... which means you'll be able to do shit like A/B the LiLo to like the Mix Dream to the Dangerous 2 buss to a Folcrum, etc., etc., etc.

electric · 15th October 2005

hi ttauri,
the output of the xsum goes to a bryston 4bst ----> then to tannoy dmt 12 mkII's (or mackie hr824s without the bryston) . trying to get my auratones in the mix too.

electric

ttauri · 15th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by electric

hi ttauri,
the output of the xsum goes to a bryston 4bst ----> then to tannoy dmt 12 mkII's (or mackie hr824s without the bryston) . trying to get my auratones in the mix too.

Sorry, what I meant was: is there only the one pair of outputs for the main mix--forcing a repatch to record everything to 2-track? Or can you tap the main mix from the multi-output jack and send that to the monitors?

Peece,
T. Tauri

electric · 16th October 2005

hey ttauri,
ask vince at speck about this. i think there is a second MIX A output on the RJ45 connector jack that acts as "link-mix" when connecting to another xsum or the lilo. you might be able to use this to send to your 2track. however, i havent tried myself. i repatch to my ad converter when i mixdown. there is also a MIX B output on the RJ45 connector and a "link mix" return in.

since i started mixing analog synths (omega8 etc) without going through ad conversions my bass has been leaping out of the tracks. this is definitely a place where the analog mixer rules imo.

regards,
electric

25th August 2005	#1
Ghost Logic Gear addict Joined: Nov 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 398 Thread Starter	Speck Lilo First Impressions? Anyone out there actually had a chance to use the Speck Lilo? First impressions etc.? How does it compare soundwise to the other summing boxes (or to the Xtramix etc.)?

26th August 2005	#2
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,108	It's very clear sounding... and very flexible. On a sonic level it's probably closer to the Dangerous stuff than most of the other summing boxes I've heard with the possible exception of the Folcrum with John Hardy pre's. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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wolfhound Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2003 Location: nyc Posts: 220	So I checked out the LiLo at AES this weekend, and I've got to say I was REALLY impressed! Does anyone own one of these? Fletcher, do you have one hooked up to demo if I came to Boston? -wolfie

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jdunn Head of Bumping Security (B.S) Joined: Feb 2004 Location: in the hills of Southern California Posts: 2,944	I've been wondering if anyone has actually bought one. Maybe the price is a little high for most. It does look like a very nice setup though.

13th October 2005	#6
wolfhound Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2003 Location: nyc Posts: 220	anybody? .... anybody? ......

14th October 2005	#7
Calistro Gear interested Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Orange CT Posts: 22	The Lilo is the Mixer of choice in my studio. Hey i think i have the best studio in the world and the Lilo is part of that reason. I'll bet its cleaner than any Neve or SSL board. I can get all the color I want out of a vast selection of outboard gear that can easily be inserted in the balanced insert jacks on every channel of the Lilo. I can also get color from using different pres. So the mixer is the one place i dont want to be locked into a certain color. I feed the board from an ApogeeDA16X into the main channels with faders and then my 16 tracks of keyboards get fed live into the B line inputs. (without faders) so I have a 32 channel mixer plus 2 stereo effects returns (36 channels) Craig C. CalistroMusic.com

14th October 2005	#8
electric Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,538	i got the xsum which i believe has a similiar summing circuit topology. (same op amps etc) however, fletcher and of course vince would know better. feed it with 2 apogee da-16's and also 7 channels of analog synths and have tons of great outboard eq and compression in between (pultecs /api/fearns/la-2a's/distressors etc). this is where you can dial in the color. i LOVE this new setup. i think i rival much bigger studios in terms of sonics i can achieve. if you are scared on dropping $$$ for lilo , try out the xsum first. might give you a good idea of the sound you'll get. or get the xsum and a ton more outboard for the same price thumbsup . regards, electric

15th October 2005	#9
ttauri Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Knife, Fork, Bottle, Cork Posts: 761	Electric, with the Xsum, what do you do as far as monitoring the summed output? Peece, T. Tauri

16th October 2005	#13
electric Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,538	hey ttauri, ask vince at speck about this. i think there is a second MIX A output on the RJ45 connector jack that acts as "link-mix" when connecting to another xsum or the lilo. you might be able to use this to send to your 2track. however, i havent tried myself. i repatch to my ad converter when i mixdown. there is also a MIX B output on the RJ45 connector and a "link mix" return in. since i started mixing analog synths (omega8 etc) without going through ad conversions my bass has been leaping out of the tracks. this is definitely a place where the analog mixer rules imo. regards, electric