Peluso 2247 vs Neumann M147?

[studiogear]

Which one would you go for? I read good reviews on both...any one using any of these?

Thanks

[TonyBelmont]

I've used both... I would choose the 47 LE over both of them, but it all depends on what your application is.

[studiogear]

thanks tony....what is the difference between the se and le?

[la grange]

SE, glass tube. LE steel tube.
LE is a tiny bit noisier but top end is smoother. Mid bass more focused. They both work well on vocal but I find that I eq less with the LE.
I find the 147 a bit thin compare to the Peluso.Just my opibnion

Oli

[studiogear]

thanks guys...and what preamp do you find works best with the peluso?

[la grange]

goes well with tranies and tubes alike.
best of luck

Oli

[JPeters86]

I have a 2247, not the LE or SE one, just the normal 2247 which I prefer over the other ones. I had to track vocals for a record the other day and that exact same day the cable for the 2247 broke. John Peluso was kind enough to send me a new one right away, but I live in the Netherlands and there was no way the cable would make it in time for the recording. Anyway, there's someone down the street with an M147, so I asked if I could lend it for the recording and he agreed. I had some basic recordings of the tracks that needed to be cut, done with the 2247 a while back. It was the same singer so I could compare it right away. I instantly preferred the 2247. More warmth, fullness and grit. I couldn't wait for the cable to arrive

The M147 is definitely not a bad mic, the results were passable, but I would not ever trade my 2247 for it. My $ .02

[studiogear]

that's good to hear....will an empirical labs el9 be a good companion for this mic?

[JPeters86]

Originally Posted by studiogear

that's good to hear....will an empirical labs el9 be a good companion for this mic?

Yeah the EL stuff is great.

I personally like my 2247 the most with a transformer based preamp.

[Omicron_9]

Originally Posted by la grange

SE, glass tube. LE steel tube.
LE is a tiny bit noisier but top end is smoother. Mid bass more focused. They both work well on vocal but I find that I eq less with the LE.
I find the 147 a bit thin compare to the Peluso.Just my opibnion

Oli

Greetings.

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 SE

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 LE

Slightly incorrect; both the 47 SE and the 47 LE have a steel tube. LE = German version of the tube. The SE has the American 5693 steel tube. I love my SE.

Happy regards,
-0.9

[DarkSky Media]

Originally Posted by studiogear

Which one would you go for? I read good reviews on both...any one using any of these?

Thanks

If you can push the budget a bit, you'll find that the M149 is better than either. Maybe see if you can track a s/h one down.

[la grange]

Originally Posted by Omicron_9

Greetings.

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 SE

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 LE

Slightly incorrect; both the 47 SE and the 47 LE have a steel tube. LE = German version of the tube. The SE has the American 5693 steel tube. I love my SE.

Happy regards,
-0.9

ooops, my mistake. Got mixed up with the short body.

Oli

[mics]

Originally Posted by Omicron_9

Greetings.

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 SE

Peluso Microphone Lab 47 LE

Slightly incorrect; both the 47 SE and the 47 LE have a steel tube. LE = German version of the tube. The SE has the American 5693 steel tube. I love my SE.

Happy regards,
-0.9

correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't the SE have a russian 6sh8? the 5693 is red and the tube in the SE is black.

[JazzPipo]

I have both. They are very different. the M147 is very dark and can have nasty mid freq. resonance which makes it picky on the sources, but it can work great on some male vocals, voiceover and rap... I used one this weekend with a Shadow Hills Mono Gama very nice thick tubey sound.

The 2247LE has more upper mids and treble... it can get a bit cold and sterile in the highs... works better on more sources. Also the off axis respons is very nice and neutral...

I'd go for the 2247LE...

[James R.]

Hi Everybody,



I don't want to make anyone mad here, but according to Peluso's site the 2247SE does not have a glass tube. It has the American steel tube equivalent of the Telefunken VF14/EF14. It has the same tube as my Pearlman TM-1 the 5693 which is part of the 6AC7 family, which also includes the 6SJ7.
Both The 5693 and the 6SJ7 are steel can tubes. I have both. Before posting this I jumped on Peluso's site to make sure I wasn't talking through my hat. Now unless Mr. Peluso has changed the listed 5693 tube to a glass one and hasn't changed the specs for that mic on his website then I stand corrected and will go crawl off into a dark corner and hide before the wailing and nashing of teeth begins.
I hope I haven't offended anyone. Also I hope this has been helpful.
Oops I just repeated what Omicron_9 posted. Sorry. I guess I should read these closer.


James R.
Avian Studios
(we're for the birds)

[DarkSky Media]

Originally Posted by James R.

I don't want to make anyone mad here...

Don't worry, James. Anyone made mad by this was assuredly mad long before you posted.

[Omicron_9]

Originally Posted by mics

correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't the SE have a russian 6sh8? the 5693 is red and the tube in the SE is black.

Ben,
You are correct. Stock tube in the SE is a black steel Russian type. I replaced mine w/a 5693 (red) tube, and was thinking of that! Thank you for pointing this out and further clarifying this issue.

Regards,
-0.9

[Jonathan Starr]

Just to further confuse matters, I have a 2247-LE American Tube model, which uses a red USA made tube and which preceeded the 2247-SE designation.

It's a fantastic mic, and does it's excellent service here through a Pacifica or Great River.

[DCommand]

find working that great with the 2247LE?
Api 3124+ and Vintage ProRack, Hmmm

[Jonathan Starr]

I find the API pre is a bit too "in your face" with the 2247-LE and most voices.

[Omicron_9]

Greetings.

I don't track vocals; just solo and chamber acoustic (classical). I'm running my 2247SE thru a Millennia HV-3D. I like it, but again, not doing any vocals, so I don't know if that is helpful.

Regards,
-0.9

[rems]

Originally Posted by James R.

Hi Everybody,

I don't want to make anyone mad here, but according to Peluso's site the 2247SE does not have a glass tube. It has the American steel tube equivalent of the Telefunken VF14/EF14. It has the same tube as my Pearlman TM-1 the 5693 which is part of the 6AC7 family, which also includes the 6SJ7.
Both The 5693 and the 6SJ7 are steel can tubes. I have both. Before posting this I jumped on Peluso's site to make sure I wasn't talking through my hat. Now unless Mr. Peluso has changed the listed 5693 tube to a glass one and hasn't changed the specs for that mic on his website then I stand corrected and will go crawl off into a dark corner and hide before the wailing and nashing of teeth begins.
I hope I haven't offended anyone. Also I hope this has been helpful.
Oops I just repeated what Omicron_9 posted. Sorry. I guess I should read these closer.

James R.
Avian Studios
(we're for the birds)

Hey James, what is your opinion between the Peluso2247 and the Pearlman TM1, if you've used both?

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Starr

I find the API pre is a bit too "in your face" with the 2247-LE and most voices.

API can work well sometimes... But, I generally prefer something Neve-ish... like a 1073, Avedis MA5, or Aurora GTQ for vocals.

[Ialsoeathummus]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

API can work well sometimes... But, I generally prefer something Neve-ish... like a 1073, Avedis MA5, or Aurora GTQ for vocals.

vintech 273 and 2247SE works great for me.

I heard the LE tube is harder to replace than the SE tube.