Lexicon 480

[D.F.]

Hi.

Has anyone compared the Lexicon 480 with the waves IR1 impulses of the 480?

Thinking of running Waves IR1 as a piece of outboard, sending from a desk aux send and returning on the desk, but wondering if the sound will be as lush as a proper Lexicon 480.

Thanks

D.F.

[Ruudman]

It is my experience that random variations in modulation (time calc)
is hard to reproduce in an IR. Kind of a snapshot where you see that
motion is captured, not reproduced.

Lexicons are famous for that motion.

ruudman

[u b k]

Originally Posted by D.F.

Thinking of running Waves IR1 as a piece of outboard, sending from a desk aux send and returning on the desk, but wondering if the sound will be as lush as a proper Lexicon 480.

no need to wonder: it won't sound as lush.


gregoire
del ubik

[Jan Folkson]

Let's just say that I'm not letting my 480 go anytime soon.

[GearHunter]

And of course part of the magic of the really classic digital reverbs is in their analog circuitry.

Yes, I know that the IR's are sampled through the analog I/O of the devices, but somehow it still doesn't feel the same. Don't get me wrong, I LIKE the Waves and the Altiverb I/R. As plug-in reverb goes, they are tops. But there's a 3-dimensional depth or something subtle that a 480 has that is hard to replicate.

I think of it more like the difference between micing a good Vox AC30 and using Amp Farm.

[SiliconAudioLab]

Amen to that. My clients where bitching about the "High End" plugs after we (for whatever reason) swapped out the 300, 224XL, 480L, and even the PCM70 with Alitverb SD, R-1 etc., plugs.

Even the biggest densest, bone head (bone eared?) clients noticed.

We went back to the hardware big time. For once they where right.

[theother]

We sampled the 480 with the Yamaha SREV-1 and no one could tell which is is what in a blind test.

Didn't sell the 480 though, but the 224X and AMS RMX-16 got the boot.

[D.F.]

Question answered. Thanks guys.

D.F.

[raal]

Originally Posted by theother

Didn't sell the 480 though, but the 224X and AMS RMX-16 got the boot.

i'm keeping my 480L and AMS verb - love it on snare.

was wondering about the new TC 6000 plugs though. on TC's website they say they are the exact same algorithms - but someone told me they're from the M3000, so just wondering if anyone's compared to a real 6000.

[theother]

Originally Posted by raal

i'm keeping my 480L and AMS verb - love it on snare.

was wondering about the new TC 6000 plugs though. on TC's website they say they are the exact same algorithms - but someone told me they're from the M3000, so just wondering if anyone's compared to a real 6000.

I also love the AMS, but what I meant is that the samples I did with the SREV-1 were close enough.

[raal]

Originally Posted by theother

I also love the AMS, but what I meant is that the samples I did with the SREV-1 were close enough.

hmmm.... so did you sample every single setting in the AMS ar just your favorite ones?

[theother]

Originally Posted by raal

hmmm.... so did you sample every single setting in the AMS ar just your favorite ones?

I sampled all the presets with some variations in reverb length and high cut.

[raal]

Originally Posted by theother

I sampled all the presets with some variations in reverb length and high cut.

interesting... thank you.

[raal]

Originally Posted by theother

I sampled all the presets with some variations in reverb length and high cut.

hmmm... may have to get IR-1 and do some sampling. if it works for recalling only, i'll be very happy.

[juicemaster1500]

Use IR's for REAL rooms, not hardware devices.

Screw the multi delay type reverbs, those reverbs are DEAD.

[Ruudman]

Originally Posted by juicemaster1500

Screw the multi delay type reverbs, those reverbs are DEAD.

My SpaceStation's alive and kickin'

ruudman

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by juicemaster1500

Screw the multi delay type reverbs, those reverbs are DEAD.

Just send them to me.

I still use them and continue to buy them.