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SSL 4000 G+ Classic...

Out of pure curiosity, Could anyone here give me an approximate price for a 5.1 ready 48 input SSL 4000 G+ Classic???

Within a 50'000$ margin would be great as I have absolutely no idea how much it would cost...
100'000$ or more like 300'000$?????????? or more maybe?????

Somehow the info is hard to find...

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Out of pure curiosity, Could anyone here give me an approximate price for a 5.1 ready 48 input SSL 4000 G+ Classic???

Within a 50'000$ margin would be great as I have absolutely no idea how much it would cost...
100'000$ or more like 300'000$?????????? or more maybe?????

Somehow the info is hard to find...

Thank you

We had an offer for £90.000 at our place for the G+ 5.1 48ch special edition. (built 1999)
But we decided to put the whole building with the equipment on the market instead.

There are not many around which sort of keeps the price high.

I even had offers to trade it in for a J desk.
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I only know of one Classic 4k built. It's a 4080 at Sound Castle LA. Last I heard it was for sale at $250k
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I only know of one Classic 4k built. It's a 4080 at Sound Castle LA. Last I heard it was for sale at $250k
I've used that one. I liked it. It's nearly indistinguishable from an 8000, except the one at Soundcastle had a martinsound multimax built in for the surround monitoring. You basically take a bunch of little optional things and refinements from the 4000G+ over the years and add the joysticks from the 8000 and voila! G+ classic.
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The info is hard to find because there weren't many classics made. I think there were only a half dozen or so ever produced. I doubt they even made a 48 channel version, so you are probably out of luck.
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In Madrid (Spain) a guy sells a complete studio for 120.000 Eu and only the SSL 4000 about 30.0000 take a look

http://www.oasisestudios.com
But is it a G+ SE or Classic? Only these have the sought after features like extra 8 fx sends, LCR panning etc..

You can have an older E or G for much less, but they are not in the same league.
Oxygen free wires, improved mixbus & Ultimation make a big difference in sound. And this is what you pay for.
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Less than 5 G+ SE's ever made. I'd say the Soundcastle Classic is the only one made.
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But is it a G+ SE or Classic? Only these have the sought after features like extra 8 fx sends, LCR panning etc..

You can have an older E or G for much less, but they are not in the same league.
Oxygen free wires, improved mixbus & Ultimation make a big difference in sound. And this is what you pay for.
any G+ has oxygen free copper wire.
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any G+ has oxygen free copper wire.
Of course, but I was refering to the desk in Spain which is not a G+.
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SSL 4000E G 40ch
Looking at the pictures it looks more like a B Series and not E.

Is this the picture of the desk for sale?
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I don´t know exactly. Only i was refering to an advertisement in a spanish used equipment forum. I was talkin with the owner he was a nice guy. Here is his number: 00 34 696959243
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I don´t know exactly. Only i was refering to an advertisement in a spanish used equipment forum. I was talkin with the owner he was a nice guy. Here is his number: 00 34 696959243
Definately 4000B as you can see here on a picture from the SSL webpage.
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thanks to all of u who took the time...

So they are rare hence expensive...

hmmmmmmmm

I assume their price never devaluate...

So it would be safe to assume that a quarter million is the minimum to be expected if one would want to order one straight from SSl?

Now The question for those who had the chance to use it: Is it worth it or going for an 8000 would be more reasonable (taking into consideration that it is designed for broadcast operation)? It s the sound that i am after more than functionality (oh prophanity)

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thanks to all of u who took the time...

So they are rare hence expensive...

hmmmmmmmm

I assume their price never devaluate...

So it would be safe to assume that a quarter million is the minimum to be expected if one would want to order one straight from SSl?

Now The question for those who had the chance to use it: Is it worth it or going for an 8000 would be more reasonable (taking into consideration that it is designed for broadcast operation)? It s the sound that i am after more than functionality (oh prophanity)

thanks
I spoke to SSL recently and they don't built any 4000 or 8000 anymore.

They do devaluate at one point, but G+ are fairly new and you don't run into heavy maintenance issues like with older E/G where you usually have to replace switches, caps, PSU's, bargraphs etc., which can be very labour and part (bargraphs) intensive.

Our G+ is 1999. Only private use in non smoking environment. That's the reason it sells for quite a lot. You always have to look at the age and history of a desk. Since 4000's have been in use for 25 years it makes a big difference in price.

The last 4000 SSL wanted to built a couple of months ago (48 channels) would have cost a bit under $300.000. But this was not a Special Edition or Classic, just ordinary G+ which is cheaper.
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Up until recently (a couple of months ago) they were still building 4ks, special order obviously, when did you ask the question?
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i was under the impression they still made 'em special order also.
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They do devaluate at one point, but G+ are fairly new and you don't run into heavy maintenance issues like with older E/G where you usually have to replace switches, caps, PSU's, bargraphs etc., which can be very labour and part (bargraphs) intensive.
It's not true that a G+ will have "less heavy maintenance issues then an E or G".. They can have just as many technical issues as an E or G now. I sold an 80 channel G+ with Ultimation, and the tech bill to have it refurbed was $60k! They have been making G+'s for 15 years now, so they aren't really what you would call new..
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It's not true that a G+ will have "less heavy maintenance issues then an E or G".. They can have just as many technical issues as an E or G now. I sold an 80 channel G+ with Ultimation, and the tech bill to have it refurbed was $60k! They have been making G+'s for 15 years now, so they aren't really what you would call new..
I will inversitgate, but aren't you confusing the G+ with the G when you say 15 years?

With less maintenance I was actually refering to the SE or Classic G+'s. They were all built after 1998 AFAIK.

Still I don't think G+ are around for 15 years. I know some G's have been retrofitted with Ultimation. Wasn't it not like 1989 when SSL sold the first G's and much later like approx 1995 when the G+'s hit the streets?

The Classic and SE's were definately approx 1998.
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I will inversitgate, but aren't you confusing the G+ with the G when you say 15 years?

With less maintenance I was actually refering to the SE or Classic G+'s. They were all built after 1998 AFAIK.

Still I don't think G+ are around for 15 years. I know some G's have been retrofitted with Ultimation. Wasn't it not like 1989 when SSL sold the first G's and much later like approx 1995 when the G+'s hit the streets?

The Classic and SE's were definately approx 1998.
No, you're wrong. 9000J's were hitting the streets in 1995!
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The Classic and SE's were definately approx 1998.
I believe the few Classic consoles were made around 2000..
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15 years puts at 1990 for a g+.........no G+'s on 90'

I say first G+ was 1993.....G+ SE 1995....

G+SE I know of:

Avatar G room was Gina's console from Blue World Music in Austin
Studio in Jakarta....don't know the name
Roundhouse in UK....sold last year to Massive Attack 4056
Tom Laune Nashville 4048
Olympic Studios 4080

if you know of one please list....not many built, BC's G+ is not an SE

J's are going for less than 200k now....
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if you know of one please list....not many built, BC's G+ is not an SE

Yeah but alot of the SE mods came from his board(true solos on groups and extra auxes) since he started mixing surround on it.
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The "Classic" G+ from Soundcastle just sold a couple of months ago. That was THE only "Classic" ever made circa 2001. I'm tryng to track down a G+ SE to purchase for my personal mix room, 48-64 channel. If anyone knows where one is please let me know, even if it is not sale.

Where is the one from Roundhouse now? Contact info?

Where is the one in Jakarta?

I know for sure Avatar does not want to sell theirs.

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It is still in jakarta, with Aquarius Studio!

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No, you're wrong. 9000J's were hitting the streets in 1995!
Yes, but the Classic and SE hit the streets long after the 9000J's.

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15 years puts at 1990 for a g+.........no G+'s on 90'

I say first G+ was 1993.....G+ SE 1995....

G+SE I know of:

Avatar G room was Gina's console from Blue World Music in Austin
Studio in Jakarta....don't know the name
Roundhouse in UK....sold last year

if you know of one please list....not many built, BC's G+ is not an SE

J's are going for less than 200k now....
Our G+ SE wa built 1999 for a studio in Kuwait where we bought it from and brought it back to England a couple of years ago.

It's now in a private & residental Andy Munro-built recording facility in North London, that is currently for sale. Modern 4 bedroom house with backgarden in very nice area next to the Hamstead Heath in London.

If anyone's intersted contact: Malcolm Jackson at http://www.mjq.co.uk/property/index.html
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