Most transparent DI on the thru

z_man_barzel · 13th July 2005

I have a P-bass/SVT combo that I love the sound of but is very susceptable to loading issues. Most DIs I've tried have affected the sound of my bass through the amp (using the "through jack" on the DI) far too much for my liking.

I'd like to be able to find a high quality DI (active preferably) that I can use on the road and not be subjected to crappy in-house models, as well as be able to use at home and in the studio for recording (my favorite DI in a recording situation has been the DI on an API 312 if that helps).

Primary importance is that the "through" option on this DI be as transparent as possible. I'd be interested to hear opinions on this matter especially.

Thanks,
Z

Andreas G · 13th July 2005

I'm using a Radial JDV... very clean with lots of headroom (very precise transient handling). But I'd recommend you to borrrow a couple of DI's and test them under your conditions... also with "clean" DI's the tastes ar suprisingly different.

pgk · 13th July 2005

I'm using a Radial JDV... very clean with lots of headroom (very precise transient handling). But I'd recommend you to borrrow a couple of DI's and test them under your conditions... also with "clean" DI's the tastes ar suprisingly different.

ditto on the jdv or the jdi

jbuntz · 13th July 2005

Wow. Great minds thnk alike.... or you're the same person.

pgk · 13th July 2005

Wow. Great minds thnk alike.... or you're the same person.

umm, no man. one of me is plenty enough......

Andreas G · 13th July 2005

Wow. Great minds thnk alike.... or you're the same person.

umm, no man. one of me is plenty enough......

...yeah, two of me would be definitely too much.

subatomic · 13th July 2005

use the "quote" button when you quote someone. it will save confusion.

Doublehelix · 13th July 2005

If loading is an issue, try the JDI (passive) instead of the active JDV.

Andreas G · 13th July 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doublehelix

If loading is an issue, try the JDI (passive) instead of the active JDV.

...I'm not sure if you confused the issue? The active JDV will not load down the pickup as the passive JDI do, because in a passive design the basspickup has to load both, the DI line and the "through" line... that could cause a weak punch.

Doublehelix · 13th July 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas G

...I'm not sure if you confused the issue? The active JDV will not load down the pickup as the passive JDI do, because in a passive design the basspickup has to load both, the DI line and the "through" line... that could cause a weak punch.

You are so right!!! CRAP!!! Sorry about that...

Andreas has it right...active DIs (like the JDV) will not load down the pickup as much...

My bad...

paterno · 13th July 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by z_man_barzel

I have a P-bass/SVT combo that I love the sound of but is very susceptable to loading issues. Most DIs I've tried have affected the sound of my bass through the amp (using the "through jack" on the DI) far too much for my liking.

I'd like to be able to find a high quality DI (active preferably) that I can use on the road and not be subjected to crappy in-house models, as well as be able to use at home and in the studio for recording (my favorite DI in a recording situation has been the DI on an API 312 if that helps).

Primary importance is that the "through" option on this DI be as transparent as possible. I'd be interested to hear opinions on this matter especially.

Thanks,
Z

You could try the Little Labs Multi Z PIP, and take the buffered 1/4 output and run it to your amp. I LOVE the sound of this DI, plus the output is line level so the signal will not degrade over long cable runs nearly as much as a mic level signal may. plus you can optimize the impedance to your bass.

One question -- do you keep a tuner in line with your bass? I have run into more tone issues with tuners than I care to remember. The thing i do mostly with the Little Labs is hook up the buffered out to the tuner, and use the through to go to the bass amp. This keeps the tuner on a completely different signal path...

good luck...

John

theom · 14th July 2005

You might try the countryman 85 active DI.

It never seems to affect the loading on my passive jazz basses.

Another thing you could do is put the di in line with the speaker out. You have to use speaker cables, put the pad in on the di and make sure you put a speaker cable from the thru jack to your speaker, or have a nice fat resistor to use as a load.

With the last band I mixed for live, I had 3 channels at front of house for bass.
mic amp
DI (input)
DI (in line with speaker)

The majority of the sound blend came from the DI on the speaker output.

13th July 2005	#1
z_man_barzel Gear interested Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1 Thread Starter	Most transparent DI on the thru I have a P-bass/SVT combo that I love the sound of but is very susceptable to loading issues. Most DIs I've tried have affected the sound of my bass through the amp (using the "through jack" on the DI) far too much for my liking. I'd like to be able to find a high quality DI (active preferably) that I can use on the road and not be subjected to crappy in-house models, as well as be able to use at home and in the studio for recording (my favorite DI in a recording situation has been the DI on an API 312 if that helps). Primary importance is that the "through" option on this DI be as transparent as possible. I'd be interested to hear opinions on this matter especially. Thanks, Z

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Andreas G Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,096	I'm using a Radial JDV... very clean with lots of headroom (very precise transient handling). But I'd recommend you to borrrow a couple of DI's and test them under your conditions... also with "clean" DI's the tastes ar suprisingly different. __________________ be unique...

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theom Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 579	countryman type 85 You might try the countryman 85 active DI. It never seems to affect the loading on my passive jazz basses. Another thing you could do is put the di in line with the speaker out. You have to use speaker cables, put the pad in on the di and make sure you put a speaker cable from the thru jack to your speaker, or have a nice fat resistor to use as a load. With the last band I mixed for live, I had 3 channels at front of house for bass. mic amp DI (input) DI (in line with speaker) The majority of the sound blend came from the DI on the speaker output.

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pgk Gear nut Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 112	I'm using a Radial JDV... very clean with lots of headroom (very precise transient handling). But I'd recommend you to borrrow a couple of DI's and test them under your conditions... also with "clean" DI's the tastes ar suprisingly different. ditto on the jdv or the jdi

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jbuntz Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,716	Wow. Great minds thnk alike.... or you're the same person.

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subatomic Gear Head Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 60	use the "quote" button when you quote someone. it will save confusion.

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Doublehelix Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,016	If loading is an issue, try the JDI (passive) instead of the active JDV.