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| View Poll Results: What bit / khz Are You Recording At? | |||
| 16-bit | | 10 | 2.95% |
| 24-bit 44.1 / 48 khz | | 242 | 71.39% |
| 24-bit 88.1 / 96 khz | | 86 | 25.37% |
| 24-bit 192 khz | | 1 | 0.29% |
| Voters: 339. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Lost Moon of Poosh
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Thread Starter | What khz and bit Rate Do You Record At? Ok, this is for the high end folks only, what khz and bit rate are your recording at? |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Lost Moon of Poosh
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Thread Starter | Wow, people still record at 44.1? I guess the good thing is you get tons of plug in processing power at that khz. Curious to know why 44.1 khz is still fine for High End. |
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| Lives for gear | I recently switched from 88.2 to 44.1. I don't hear any difference with the audio, but there is a notable improvement with the performance of the plugins at 88.2. Happily, I'm almost 100% OTB, so plugin performance isn't all that important to me; certainly not worth the disc space/back up time/etc trade-off. If any projects come across my way that need to be done ITB, though, I'll definitely go back to 88.2 for em. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston
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| I've recently been doing the same thing, for rock, now mostly @ 24/44.1, I was 88.2 for years, now I'm indifferent, actually like that 44.1 doesn't get as glossy. for more delicate stuff I'll go to 88.2
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Thread Starter | This is interesting, especially since I found this article today about kids preferring crappy MP3s for rock and pop music: Music Is Dead: iPods and Young People Have Utterly Destroyed Music |
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| Gear Guru | But there's nothing crappy about recording at 48K really, so I'm not sure there's a connection there, at least not for most rock music anyway.
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| Lives for gear | 24-bit/48k simple and gets the job done. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ipswich, UK
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| 44.1 24 bit, as yet I cant find anything wrong with it for rock and roll mind you if I got a decent job recording bat song perhaps I might change my mind. On second thoughts, I hate the smell of bat guano!. ![]()
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| I prefer filling up the hard drives. |
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| | #11 |
| Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2009
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| actually it's just math and basically our ears can't pick up all those benefits of recording above 44.1 except on harmonics that's the only difference we may notice. problems recording at 48khz is when going to disc you have to down sample to 44.1khz and when doing that you create noise that we barely hear it if not at all. ps: sorry for my bad english |
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| Gear nut | am recording at 24/48 |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Lost Moon of Poosh
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Thread Starter | Wow, 44/48khz over 88.1/96khz by over 2 to 1 ![]() Did everyone hang onto their Pro Tools Mix systems or something?? |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Turkey
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| I clearly hear 24/48 is much better than 24/44 (you get more open highs). If I had the process power I would rather go 24/96 (mix sounds deeper). |
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| Gear Guru | I've gone back and forth many times in various experimental bits, and honestly I don't think that 88.2K has any real advantages over 48K, if you are going to deliver at 44.1K which most everything will be, and the extra overhead when you use really heavy stuff like BFD or convolution reverbs and such is very significant. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cowboy California
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| Lives for gear | SRC 44.1/24 It omits the audio damaging stage of Sample Rate Conversion. I am guessing that the Clock has the least jitter or relative jitter at this rate also. DD |
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| Gear Guru Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine
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| Quote:
or you're processing your sounds with plugs, which to my ears sound better at higher s.r. gregory scott - ubk . | |
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| Lives for gear | Quote:
the only reason to go higher is to reduce latency. as always, imho. :-) | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ.
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| I can run either but I prefer to keep it lower. Less wasted space, less processing, and the same sound by the time it gets to CD (or worse).
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| | #23 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ
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| 44/24 eh, why not. |
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| Lives for gear | I've spent a lot of research, time and money making sure my entire system can pass at minimum 96k so it makes sense for me to do everythng at 96k. Drives are the cheapest part of what we do so I'd always rather have the extra digital space to work with. I'm ready for plugins to start improving to higher resolutions.
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| hi, great thread! i always record at the best sample rate and bit depth, but i don't vote in polls. right. |
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| | #27 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: istanbul TR
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| 24/96. If you have the processing power and the hard disc space why not use it? |
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| | #28 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London, UK
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| which single muppet records at 24/192 ehh? Show yourself! (Unless of course your sponsored by Lacie, then I understand )
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006
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| | #30 |
| Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philly Burbs
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| First of all, it's "bit depth" not "bit rate" - the latter is something different. I go 24/88.2 - I've seen enough science on it now to know that while we can't hear anything above 20K (lower than that for most people), things happening above it can affect areas that we do hear. Also, the filters can operate ata higher level and remove aliasing well above our audible range, wheras with 44.1, that could creep into the mix. could I tell a difference in an audio test on a rock song in my littel studio? Probably not - but, as I said before, HP and space isn't an issue for me, so I go with the higher rate in that it might eek out a little more quality throughout the process. |
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