4th February 2009
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#1 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | preamp plugins
Is there any plugin that serves as a preamp ?
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#2 | | Gear maniac
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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I seen IR's for preamps, but that is about the extent of it. I'm sure it will happen soon enough though.
cam
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#4 | | GS Community Manager
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Well, not "serve as" but some preamp characteristics can be modelled.
The URS Saturation plug-in can do just such a thing...
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5th February 2009
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#5 | | Gear nut
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I'm still waiting for the "Pick-A-Mix" plug-in with the Chris Lord-Alge preset.
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Try "Normalize" in PT, that's supposed to be a 1073 clone.
Ed
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by eclectic I'm still waiting for the "Pick-A-Mix" plug-in with the Chris Lord-Alge preset. | Hilarious! (a guy from waves just read this and wet himself on his way to R&D)
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#8 | | Gear nut
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thank you guys
i have a design pacifica preamp and 003 m with M149 tube
but
my freind does not have a preamp
so he Trying to find any compensated for lost preamp
Forgive me
I do not speak English well
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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no plugin can recreat a preamp.  |
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Chaellus no plugin can recreat a preamp.   |
thats true and it is fact we can recreate many things today internal the box like hardware but to increase the quality of your sound you should buy at least one good preamp. you do not have to spend thousand of dollars for this but good quality signals are important for the internal mix down.
it is a fact of physics you cant recreate frequency's which not have been recorded.
for this fact a good microphone and a good preamp as well as a good-mic-cable is necessary.
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by ahmz Is there any plugin that serves as a preamp ? | Yeah, it's called a liquid channel by Focusrite |
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Might be a good idea to suggest a good "entry level" book on AE to your friend.
Ed
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#13 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by H-Rezz Yeah, it's called a liquid channel by Focusrite  |
I was initially gonna say something like that, but since I don't post here super often, I figured I'd go easy on everyone!!
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#14 | | Gear interested
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ahmz,
What platform is he using? Cubase? Logic? Pro Tools?
There are many preamp plugins, some do their job, some don't.
In my experience I liked what I heard with:
AM-Phibia by Magix
And LM-662 by Nomad Factory
Waves SSL Channel
But to get the optimum quality, your friend has to have a transparent frontend (soundcard & A/D converters) to his PC in order to keep the signal as close to original as possible (If your friend is plugging to his $50 soundcard, tell him not to bother  )
Even after that, some will say that the sound is not comparable to real gear, but with some creative tweaking, those plugins can save the day.
Hope this helps,
Ete
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by ahmz Is there any plugin that serves as a preamp ? | A plugin won't give you phantom power, so.... no.
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#16 | | Gear addict
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and any compressor and eq plug in? ah, sorry i was joke.
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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It is impossible to have a plug-in act as a mic-pre because in order to get the signal into the computer you have to go through a converter which accepts line level inputs and outputs that line level signal to digital. How are you possibly going to amplify a mic-level signal when you have no mic-level signal to amplify? Plus, the amount of signal going into the converter would be so low and noisy you'd never want to use it in a recording.
Other "plug-in amplification" software that is available is really just a modeling of gain on a pre-recorded signal. You can model EQ, Compression, Reverb, etc. but if you are going to be using microphones, you absolutely have to have a mic-pre to get that signal into your converter and thus into your computer.
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#18 | | www.circlestudios.co.uk
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Originally Posted by ahmz Is there any plugin that serves as a preamp ? | How low can the high-end go?
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#19 | | Gear maniac
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URS saturation. It's really a subtle distortion plugin but it emulates a bunch of different preamps. It sounds really great.
Dean
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#20 | | GS Community Manager
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Originally Posted by Rickard URS saturation. It's really a subtle distortion plugin but it emulates a bunch of different preamps. It sounds really great. | Was my post invisible, or does everyone have me on ignore? |
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#21 | | www.circlestudios.co.uk
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Originally Posted by terminal3 Was my post invisible, or does everyone have me on ignore?  |  Who said that? |
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#22 | | Gear interested
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My forthcoming EQ update contains a pre-amp stage simulation which covers some non-linearities like transformer bass distortion, tube harmonics, freq&phase response etc.
Some more info on my blog here and here.
PC / VST only.
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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URS channel strip pro has some pre emulations at the input stage doesnt it?
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#24 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by rimskidog How low can the high-end go? | amen
actually that could be a good cha cha or rhumba or something.. kind of a cousin to the limbo
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#25 | | Lives for gear
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Ask yourself, what does a mic amp do? Microphone preamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote: |
A microphone preamp (microphone pre-amplifier), most commonly called mic preamp, is a device used to amplify the voltage taken from a microphone to a higher, more usable level. Most microphones must be used in conjunction with a microphone preamp to function properly.
| Now how the fukk are you going to get a plugin to do that..??
Have a nice day..
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#26 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by drmmrboy | in fairness it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the OP was talking about emulating the sound of differant pres rather than some sort of magical pre-amp in plug format.
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#27 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by ahmz Is there any plugin that serves as a preamp ? | I hope not, the other sources are bad enough don't you think ? .....Think Hardware !!!
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#28 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by terminal3 Was my post invisible, or does everyone have me on ignore?  | Oops. My bad.  |
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#29 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | booogie he use protools and i will tell him about that plugins I know that there is no substitute for the land plugins including, but would like something similar to it thanks all of you |
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#30 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
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Originally Posted by ahmz booogie he use protools and i will tell him about that plugins I know that there is no substitute for the land plugins including, but would like something similar to it thanks all of you | You guys never patched a SM57 into the AD converter and use the Bomb Factory or MC77 plug in to boost the gain? Its sounds awful!!!
I like patching tube microphones into compressors. Less crap in the way. Not so sure doing it with a plug in is quite the same concept.
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