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Old 8th June 2005   #1
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Thermionic Culture Phoenix comp:Fav settings

Any of you Phoenix users: favorite settings on this unit?
I'm liking it ..just curious about youre go to settings..
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Good god, you got one of these too?!! You're 'Slut o' the Month' for sure! Sounds like I need to rent some toys from you for my upcoming mixdown.

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My favorite setting for it is "ON". It does some really nice stuff to the audio, but it's differenct damn near every time. FWIW it's become my "go to" vocal compressor for damn near every vocal I've done for the past while.

Best of luck with it, it's a great unit.
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Good god, you got one of these too?!! You're 'Slut o' the Month' for sure! Sounds like I need to rent some toys from you for my upcoming mixdown.


It's a sickness I tell you...
FWIW..The Phoenix is a demo ...Jeff @ Vintage King/LA has been giving me first crack at a lotta cool stuff lately....
But damned if I don't want this f**cki'n thing...it really is a cool unit.everything I've put through it so far sounds very,very nice ...including stereo program stuff.
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goodness me roundbadge, your entering a whole new realm of slutiness. im so jealous

as for settings, ive been bashing on with 2buss stuff mostly and finding input at 3, attack about 4, release about 5 and threshold adjusted for about 3db reduction sounding very nice across the board. its transparent yet adds real smooth compression and doesnt dull drum transients down
its rapidly becoming a starting point for most 2buss stuff. sometimes lengthening the release to 6 sounds better, other times attack down to 3 sounds better....especially for hiphop things.

i really like the way it goes when you drive it on but ive not as much occassion to use this with mastering work.

what about you, what have you found thats been really working for you.
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Neil..real busy today ...but give a day or two and I'll let you know
So far this thing rocks! stike
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it's a great bus compressor. thom monahan used it extensively on the new devendra banhart record for the mixbus. enjoy!
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Try leaving the threshold all the way up and just drive the input gain.....can make certain sources E-normous.......watch that sibilance though!
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I'm glad so many of you fellow slutz are getting into the Phoenix!

I've got two! (one in each control room!)

Here's an interesting one for you to try in a big room tracking drums....

Set up two Royer R121s, in the farthest opposite corners of the rooms facing... this is weird... logo side towards the celing, non-logo side towards the floor. Aim to get the height equidistant from floor and celing.

This works best if your kit is setup in the middle of the room.

I've been using the Milennia HV3D as a pre for this but pick and mix what's good for you.

patch in the Phoenix (one channel per mic) and set gain to 7ish, attack and release to 1, and the threshold low enough so that the needles are really digging in (that's where you'll need to work out what works for the track of course!)

With the gain up around 7 and beyond, the phoenix ceases being quite so polite and well behaved. having the attack and release set like this also makes it dirtier...

Hard pan these mics and introduce some of them into the rest of your drum mic mix and check it out!

Huuuge sound!!

enjoy...
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Yeah..I'm realizing the possibillities...
It does add girth to a lotta stuff
and working the gain with the thresh all the way up or slighty digging the meters sounds real cool..
but the drum Buss...F*ck yeah!
Slammin but with size!
Seriously Yum!
I REALLY wanna keep it..But then Pete at Shadow Hills is making an uber comp thats just days away from a demo at Vintage King..I wanna put these two side by side and let em' rip.
Sh*t ..I'll probably want both..$$
Did I mention I have some Helios for sale?$$$
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how did you ever get on with your phoenix?

are they still trying to pry it from your fingers or did something new and even shinier catch your eye
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Mix Buss- another thing I really want to buy! Used a producers a few months back and it was amazing.
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i definately agree.
i ran one up against the manley vari-mu and the pendulum es-8 and it won out for 2buss work.

im using it in my mastering house.

if you search back you will find the review if your interested though if you've used i guess you already know what it can do
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how did you ever get on with your phoenix?

are they still trying to pry it from your fingers or did something new and even shinier catch your eye
Hi Neil..I still have it here..I still love it
I'm waiting to run it next to the new Shadow Hills stereo dual comp[waiting for the demo..it's two stereo compressors in one box] before I commit to a purchase.
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I want "my" favorite Phoenx settings damnit! Gotta get one!
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Hi Neil..I still have it here..I still love it
I'm waiting to run it next to the new Shadow Hills stereo dual comp[waiting for the demo..it's two stereo compressors in one box] before I commit to a purchase.

That compressor is going to be absolutely insane looking from what I can gather from the drawings of it.

Have you had a chance to check out the Shadow Hills pre yet ???

I love how their gear seems to be really multifunctional with different pre sounds and different compressors in the same box but he still finds enough room on the things to keep the cool knobs and retro vibe. That compressor is jam packed !
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Yeah ..I'm gonna call Geoff at VK tommorrow and see whats up.
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