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Old 8th December 2008   #1
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Apogee sound for Nuendo?

Hi,

I am recording a band with using Nuendo on a PC.
It is a small studio and their set up is the Tascom DM 3200 (O2R like digital board)
and a RME digital card connected from the Tascom via Adat optcal, and they use Nuendo. They have 2 1073s and 2 sheps, a martech, and some custom made SSL pres going into the line ins of the Tascom.

So, all the A-D is done inside the Tascom, (the REM only has Adat optical ins and puts, so no conversion there.) and the Tascom A-D sounds a liitle dark to me.

I like the sound of Apogee. It sounds clear and high end to me.
I know they make firewire interfaces, but they are all for Macs.
What option would I have in this case to get clear A-D conversion?

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Konichiwa,

You can buy something like an RME card that you install in your computer that will give AES and ADAT input and outputs. You then buy some cables and have them go directly into your Apogee. This is what I have running in my computer to my Rosetta 800 and it works great. Here is one of them. RME: Hammerfall DSP 9652

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I know they make firewire interfaces, but they are all for Macs.
Not really. Rosetta 200, 800 and AD/DA16 with X-FireWire card work on the PC too.
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Hello.

Thank you both for your posts.
So, if I use a Rosetta, what will my routing be?

If it is a single cannnel, an outbaord Pre into the Rosetta, to a PC with firewire?
In that case, will I need to monitor the signal from a PC and need to deal with latency?

Right now, they monitor the input signal from the Tascom, and play back from the PC. Faders set to odb. No latency in this way. Nuendo is a native system, so there is no green input switch as ProTools.
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If you are on a PC and using an ASIO compliant sound card, then Nuendo can take advantage of an ASIO feature called Direct Monitoring. This feature automatically routes in the input back to the output, when the track is in monitor mode (little yellow circle with the speaker icon). This feature works exactly the same as the Pro Tools Input monitor mode, but its automatic if you turn direct monitoring on in your Nuendo preferences.

I don't know if apogee built direct monitoring into their asio driver or not. But the function does exist. Its one of the only reasons I miss using Nuendo on a PC. (I'm still a steinberg fanatic, I just use all macs now).
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AES connections are most common in pro audio. I have no experience with RME AES card so can't comment about monitoring latency. It would be nice if Glenn chime in again.

I'm using Roseta 200 with X-FW card. Works fine. Just install Apogee Firemix soft. and you can monitoring through it, bypassing the recording program. With lower buffer settings (256 - 128) monitoring latency is around 5 ms or lower.
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AES connections are most common in pro audio. I have no experience with RME AES card so can't comment about monitoring latency. It would be nice if Glenn chime in again.

I'm using Roseta 200 with X-FW card. Works fine. Just install Apogee Firemix soft. and you can monitoring through it, bypassing the recording program. With lower buffer settings (256 - 128) monitoring latency is around 5 ms or lower.
I still work with Cubase SX3 at times but I switched to Samplitude over a year ago and could not be happier. There is a slider I just move for direct monitoring and then I have no latency. The RME card is rock solid and does not appear to have bugs or issues running on Cubase/Nuendo or Samplitude. The latency is controlled by your DAW with how much buffers you have selected. I usually had it to 6 mil in Cubase when recording. Then after everything was tracked, before I start using my plug ins, I move the buffers up to 23 mil. to have enough power to run the plug ins smoothly. With Samplitude I have 0 latency or very close to it with the monitoring slider selected.
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Then after everything was tracked, before I start using my plug ins, I move the buffers up to 23 mil. to have enough power to run the plug ins smoothly.
Exactly.
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