How many HIGH END studios are running Digital Performer?

[gearmaniac]

Just wanted to ask if any high end studios are running digital performer as there main/ favorite DAW?

[Infernal Device]

Electrical Audio

[MichaelMackie]

My high school used DP.

[gearmaniac]

any more??

[Tony Shepperd]

Try this thread...
After 16 years using Digital Performer I QUIT

[jjblair]

The people I know who use DP are using it for the MIDI, and then do their audio in PTHD.

[UpNSmoke]

Originally Posted by Infernal Device

Electrical Audio

I've never heard of them using DP at EA, but that's pretty interesting if they are. From what I understand Steve, always records to tape...

[davedarling]

Originally Posted by gearmaniac

Just wanted to ask if any high end studios are running digital performer as there main/ favorite DAW?

I've been to a lot of high end studios, and have never seen digital performer.

cheers dd

[dannygold]

Originally Posted by gearmaniac

Just wanted to ask if any high end studios are running digital performer as there main/ favorite DAW?

Why, are you staring a high end studio?

[Chaellus]

never seen a profesional studio with DP

[tenkas]

Sorry to bring this thing back up...

I would love to know ADVANTAGES of using DP instead of Reaper, Cubendo, PT, Logic, etc.

They FORCE us to learn it at school (music college) and 80% of us have PC (DP will not run on PC) and the teacher can't really tell why we are using this "crap" instead of anything else.

Edit:

There is NO solo button (according to my teacher who has been using it for ages). You have to press a key and then hit an icon and this will mute all the other tracks. Then, after you have to do something pretty complicated for NOTHING to "UNSOLO" the tracks...

Is my teacher hiding something?

[jbjoubaud]

Originally Posted by tenkas

Edit:

There is NO solo button (according to my teacher who has been using it for ages). You have to press a key and then hit an icon and this will mute all the other tracks. Then, after you have to do something pretty complicated for NOTHING to "UNSOLO" the tracks...

Is my teacher hiding something?

Like any other software DP has it's shortcuts... Once you've learned them you're good to go (it seams that your teacher doesn't use that software very much... or maybe it's just you that doesn't keep pace with him )

Anyway we have PT at work and I have DP at home and I think they both perform very nicely in the audio department (DP's midi being still slightly better)

[Tony Shepperd]

Originally Posted by tenkas

Sorry to bring this thing back up...

I would love to know ADVANTAGES of using DP instead of Reaper, Cubendo, PT, Logic, etc.

They FORCE us to learn it at school (music college) and 80% of us have PC (DP will not run on PC) and the teacher can't really tell why we are using this "crap" instead of anything else.

Edit:

There is NO solo button (according to my teacher who has been using it for ages). You have to press a key and then hit an icon and this will mute all the other tracks. Then, after you have to do something pretty complicated for NOTHING to "UNSOLO" the tracks...

Is my teacher hiding something?

What school are you going to?

[parasitk]

Originally Posted by tenkas

There is NO solo button (according to my teacher who has been using it for ages). You have to press a key and then hit an icon and this will mute all the other tracks. Then, after you have to do something pretty complicated for NOTHING to "UNSOLO" the tracks...

Is my teacher hiding something?

There is absolutely a solo button. Look at the mixer window.

examples:
http://www.northallegheny.org/academ...rm1/mixer1.jpg
http://www.novationmusic.com/answerb...DI_control.jpg
http://createdigitalmusic.com/images...9/dp7mixer.jpg

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by gearmaniac

Just wanted to ask if any high end studios are running digital performer as there main/ favorite DAW?

as far as i know..... no.

[Infernal Device]

Originally Posted by UpNSmoke

I've never heard of them using DP at EA, but that's pretty interesting if they are. From what I understand Steve, always records to tape...

Electrical Audio - Equipment -

Steve doesn't use it, but it is in use at Electrical.

[Slikjmuzik]

I only know of anyone that can even be considered high end using DP if they score music or do a lot of commercials and programming. However, the PT8 midi engine isn't so bad. I still don't care for it for Audio, I use Nuendo in my studio, but I have PT8 LE for those that need to bring in sessions. However, I transfer them into Nuendo with a quickness.

[tenkas]

I go to a music school in Montreal and it is NOT specialized in computer audio, but I know we have digital performer 6, maybe there is no solo button in DP6?

Also, is it possible for the PLAY CURSOR to come back to the ORIGINAL POSITION when you press stop? My teacher said it was impossible in DP but that seems very.... impossible!

[jbjoubaud]

Originally Posted by tenkas

I go to a music school in Montreal and it is NOT specialized in computer audio, but I know we have digital performer 6, maybe there is no solo button in DP6?

Also, is it possible for the PLAY CURSOR to come back to the ORIGINAL POSITION when you press stop? My teacher said it was impossible in DP but that seems very.... impossible!

Your teacher definitly doesn't know what he's doing !!!
What's the name of your school ? Maybe I should teach that class for him !

[tenkas]

hi,

Sorry, I will be teaching the class next year....

Just joking :P

I won't tell you which school because that wouldn't be very profesionnal, but the guy has won prizes and is in the electroacoustic domain (less in the recording bands, etc).

[Stepwise Sound]

DP is for real.

I think in a lot of ways it takes PT and Logic out back and messes them up a little bit.

1. File management. You will never lose files or have weird issues with audio files or other files being located on other discs in DP. That's because DP does it the smart way -- it keeps copies of EVERYTHING in the project folder. The project sizes are larger than other programs but you will not lose a damn thing.

I know people will say "well Logic or PT does this too" -- well they don't do it as well and certainly not by default!

this brings us to the next point.

2. Unlimited Undo. Why does PT and Logic not have this feature? In DP, you can even open up files from YEARS AGO and undo previous actions. Everything is time-stamped. It is freaking amazing and has saved the day once or twice.

3. Integrated Pitch Correction! Works amazing. Super fast. No more opening plugs and recording audio in to do pitch correction. And Melodyne and Autotune are NOT as transparent and good on a variety of sound sources.

4. Bounces are faster than realtime (sorry PT!)

5. Scoring options are second to none.

6. Very scalable system, low processor overhead.

Honestly DP works great -- I jumped ship years ago because everyone is using, guess what, Logic + Protools. I don't really regret it -- I do wish that these other programs worked as well as DP in certain regards.

I love the workflow in Logic, composing, etc.... editing in PT rocks and is easier than both Logic and DP.

So there is no magic bullet.

But DP is massively overlooked. I know commercial/tv houses that are using DP in high end setups but I am not naming names.

P.S. Option click the solo button to turn off solo mode (un solo all tracks!)

[Tonio Ruiz]

I am using DP6 since a year now, like somebody said earlier it gets the job done, is a very nice and complete DAW, BUT I am a PT guy since quite a few years and the reason I'm not using PT as my main DAW at my studio is because I can't afford a PTHD system with the configuration I need at my studio, so I went for the MOTU HD system that works great meanwhile I can save money for the PTHD which I really love... some day I'll have it

anyway, DP is very good, slow and pain full but good, I prefer PT all the way though

my .02

[radiospace]

Originally Posted by tenkas

Sorry to bring this thing back up...

I would love to know ADVANTAGES of using DP instead of Reaper, Cubendo, PT, Logic, etc.

They FORCE us to learn it at school (music college) and 80% of us have PC (DP will not run on PC) and the teacher can't really tell why we are using this "crap" instead of anything else.

Edit:

There is NO solo button (according to my teacher who has been using it for ages). You have to press a key and then hit an icon and this will mute all the other tracks. Then, after you have to do something pretty complicated for NOTHING to "UNSOLO" the tracks...

Is my teacher hiding something?

DP is a solid all-around software package for recording music. If it has one thing that is outstanding compared to the competition, it's the collection of features that are geared toward film and television composers, which is where I have mostly encountered people using the software. You can check their promotional web site if you are interested in the details.

p.s. All recent versions of DP have solo buttons.

[lobsty]

I love DP... started using it when I got my 828mkII and have loved it ever since. Sounds like your teacher is on crack... or at the very least shouldn't be teaching because he clearly doesn't know his way around it.
Especially funny because the DP manual is actually really good.

Realistically, all DAW's are pretty much the same these days (except maybe Live) so it's just a matter of picking the one that seems the most intuitive.

[bigfurry]

Did you actually look for the solo button? It's in the mixer, where you would expect, yes?


DP is a very powerful, deep program that can do everything I've ever needed and more. Try it and see if it works for you.

Pro Tools is in "high end" studios, but you will find many detractors if you care to look around. Good to know for your future work purposes, certainly.

[andsonic]

Isn't Hans Zimmer a user? I think most of the "high end" users are in the soundtrack world.

[Ben B]

My favorite feature in DP is the Chunks Window. It's like using subsequences in Vision. The last version of DP I used, however, was DP5. Is the chunking still well-implemented in the new version?

-Ben B

[jbjoubaud]

Originally Posted by tenkas

hi,

Sorry, I will be teaching the class next year....

Just joking :P

I won't tell you which school because that wouldn't be very profesionnal, but the guy has won prizes and is in the electroacoustic domain (less in the recording bands, etc).

Since you are taking the class and not one of his colleague then what professionalism are you talking about ?

And then your teacher might have won prizes in his domain but he obviously deosn't know how to use DP... so what good are his prices doing for him in this class ?

Anyway, doesn't really matter to me since I'm not one paying for incompetent teachers.

[beats workin']

I've used DP for at least 12 years now, after jumping from PT. I do a lot of records, film scores and commercial jobs here. I find DP to be an excellent tool. It works for me, as a commercial studio, because I tend to produce most of the projects here from start to finish so it's rare that someone brings in a project, which would invariably be on PT. When it does happen (once a month, maybe) I simply have them consolidate the tracks so they all start at zero, with no plug-ins, and drag them in. If I was starting a commercial facility, It'd be tough NOT to use PT since that's the most common format people will bring in. It's a tough call.
I started engineering W-A-Y back in the tape era (!) and DP basically feels like a tape machine to me. Much more than PT and certainly Logic. It can do what other programs do, but on an interactive level, it feels like a tape machine.
david

[acjetnut]

DP does everything protools does, but for way less money. It also has built-in plugin delay compensation, which Pro Tools stupidly doesn't really have. However, I do like the user interface a bit better in Pro Tools. Is it worth the extra $$$ though?