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20th November 2008
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| Moderator  Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Thread Starter | 176 vs CL1B for tracking vocals.
Re-issue 176/CL1B Who's used both? What up? |
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20th November 2008
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from the samples of your vocals i've heard online i REALLY think you should try the 176. they are so different you'd really want both in the rack of course. call up VK for a demo.
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20th November 2008
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I have a Retro 176 coming to my room tomorrow.  |
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20th November 2008
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I have a 176 coming soon also, obviously thats my vote  Lets hear your thoughts after you try it out james! |
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20th November 2008
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Different Tubes In A Tube Tech CL1B You could then run the clean sample thru your 176 and voila! Then you could kindly post the file, so I can hear it too :-) Cheers, | |
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20th November 2008
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I have a CL1B. | |
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20th November 2008
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Hey James! Is your CL1B stock or did you change it to a mullard toob ...... ??  Vocs sound sick bro..... way to "go get it" ..... you are "a man obsessed" LOL  |
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20th November 2008
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20th November 2008
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Pretty please, post a comparison between the two! Use your "mic of the week", the vintage U87, why don't ya? Cheers, |
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20th November 2008
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Best Regards, The Devil In You | |
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20th November 2008
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From what I've heard of you and what I know of my Retro 176... that thing is made or you! Vibe for days versus a solid compressor, but not much atmosphere compared to the Retro 176. Just one guy's opinion. (Enjoy the 176, I believe you will. Excited for you )-Andrews |
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20th November 2008
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they're different enough to where its cool having both the 176 is pretty vibey.the CL1b is on the transparent side w/ a bit of warmth that said the 176 is always the first thing i try on tracking vox,it just sounds great. | |
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20th November 2008
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I think that CL1B deserves its position as modern classic and almost must have comp, but for advanced engineer or hobbist definitelly not the only one choice. I use it pretty extensivelly (and I like clean compression for most jobs), but for dirtier tasks except obvious LA2A/3A & 1176, I've found mpressor to be great, versatile and almost indispensable tool (although non-tube).
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20th November 2008
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This all sounds compelling. Grabbing the piece this morning.  |
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20th November 2008
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Started running some vocals through it. Sounds great, I would not say that it blows the CL1B away by any means. I think they're both cool. I think the 176 suits my voice maybe a hair more but not by much. The 176 sounds maybe a hair more masculine and dark.  
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20th November 2008
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Could that be because of different tubes? You should be able to see a bit of a difference in the way they compress too, I guess. My question is if you think it is diferent enough to justify having both. I think mullard tubes give the TT some hair and muscles, for instance - if you are into that. Check my thread :-) Cheers, |
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20th November 2008
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aaauuuggggghhhh..... They're both nice. The 176 is easier for me to use, I love the output knob. |
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20th November 2008
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It doesn't help that I'm having one of the hardest sessions of my life. Female singer clipping everything.  Standing a mile off the sm7 with the pre on 1. FUKKKKKKKK I'm in hell! |
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20th November 2008
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Wow, she must be hitting like 150dB of SPL or something....?! Clipping any preamp with a distant mic'd SM7B would be tough. War
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20th November 2008
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La3a That's exactly what I did. |
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Could you PLEASE stop using foam peanuts! thanks. Back to topic. | |
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21st November 2008
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Just did some singing and ran some vocals through both. IMO The 176 is better, it's deeper, more balanced, takes being hit hard better. The tone is fatsville! The CL1B does have a happier sound, maybe a but more commercial. Both are good imo. |
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21st November 2008
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It seems the achilles heel of the CL1B is you can't really hit it as hard as the 176. It just gets to grimey.
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21st November 2008
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The 176 is better... I know I'm having a conversation with myself.  |
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21st November 2008
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It's hard to justify 3,5k price tag for mono comp. 2 ,3- 2,5k (TT region) would be different story. | |
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