Bricasti 2.0

[toolstudio]

Hi,

I read in some AES newsletter about a V2.0 of the Bricasti with a new algorithm.

Is these a future plan, or is there something to hear at the AES ?

Does anybody already heard it ?

wolfgang

[Casey]

No, V2.0 will not be ready for AES.

We are spending all of our effort right now on completing the M10 remote that has already been announced but not yet released.

The interest in the M10 remote has been much stronger than we anticipated, and many M7 sales are now being predicated on the availability of the M10.

We are weeks away from the M10 release, so we will be back to work on V2.0 in October.

We are expecting to sell the one thousandth M7 around the end of this year. Our goal is to ship it with V2.0.



-Casey

[George Necola]

If I order the 1000th.. will I get it for free?

[Casey]

Originally Posted by George Necola

If I order the 1000's.. will I get it for free?

Come on George, I've got 3 M7s and an M10 all opened up sitting on the bench here. I can't be spitting cofee!



-Casey

[Jack Ruston]

Casey just to say that I LOVE my M7. It has profoundly changed the sound of my work and it definitely falls into the 'one of the greatest things I've ever bought' category. Looking forward to v2 whenever it arrives.

J

[tomdarude]

no george, sorry you can´t have it....

IT WILL BE ALL MINE !!!! hahahaha stikestike

[mwagener]

Casey, can you tell us something about the V2.0 update? I am planning to buy a second M7 and the remote for the new studio and I'm wondering what will be different with V2.0

Thank you.

[Casey]

Originally Posted by mwagener

I'm wondering what will be different with V2.0

The first thing to know is that V1.0 is entirely preserved within V2.0. The algorithm, the presets and any custom registers can all be recalled exactly.

V2.0 has several new preset banks which use our second algorithm. This second algorithm is our attempt to advance the art in larger than life reverb effects. It is rich in deep chorusing and subtle cascading echos. For simplicities sake it uses the very same parameter set as V1.0, but the feel is very different.

V2.0 also provides the ability to decorrelate the sounds of up to 3 M7s. This is useful when using multiple M7s in surround applications.

Lastly, V2.0 adds 4 simple delays that can be used with or without the reverb. Each delay has a level, delay time, pan and tone parameter. Each delay also has a wet/dry mix which controls how much of the delay is sent into the reverb and how much is sent in parallel with the reverb.

V2.0 upgrades will be free to all M7 owners. The upgrade consists of a pair of proms that are placed in the existing sockets on the main digital board.



-Casey

[lukehatpadl]

Originally Posted by Casey

We are expecting to sell the one thousandth M7 around the end of this year. Our goal is to ship it with V2.0.
-Casey

Wow, you don't mind your competitors knowing this? :-)

[tomdarude]

what competitors exactly ??




"This second algorithm is our attempt to advance the art in larger than life reverb effects. It is rich in deep chorusing and subtle cascading echos"

holy shit...casey, that sentence really put it over the top now
....maybe for x-mas, hopefully...I just MUST have one, SOON!!

[ISedlacek]

Originally Posted by tomdarude

"This second algorithm is our attempt to advance the art in larger than life reverb effects. It is rich in deep chorusing and subtle cascading echos"

In other words, it seems, there will be no need to think of extra Lexicons for some "bigger and lusher than life" effects )

Please, don´t forget about some new churches/cathedrals as well )

[Jim Williams]

This is great news. Well, maybe not so great for those that selected the PCM96 for $200 less. Just last night I was wanting for a bit more Lexicon chorus swishy stuff on a lead vocal and ended up using a hot rodded 200.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[colinmiller]

Maybe this is a good time for someone to complain that the new version doesn't sound as good as the old one? Might as well get it out of the way before it even comes out. That way we don't have to deal with it when the new version is out. Any volunteers?

I wonder if there's a name/law for the phenomenon.

[Mathijs]

Please remove the luggage from the racks above your heads and please it on the other side of the aircraft.

[World Studios]

I liked the v 1.0 algos much better. The new ones don't sit as well in the mix and sound artificial. I am putting the old eprom back in its socket. The delays sound way too digital.

[World Studios]

;-)

Reactionaritis?

[Jim Williams]

Originally Posted by colinmiller

Maybe this is a good time for someone to complain that the new version doesn't sound as good as the old one? Might as well get it out of the way before it even comes out. That way we don't have to deal with it when the new version is out. Any volunteers?

I wonder if there's a name/law for the phenomenon.

It's known as "the grass is always greener" phenomenom. It cuts across all subjects. Even cows suffer from it.

I can't imagine how v.2 is going to change anything if the v.1 algos are kept. It's just more stuff. I like more stuff.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[mwagener]

Thanx for the info Casey, much appreciated.

[lucey]

Originally Posted by Casey

The first thing to know is that V1.0 is entirely preserved within V2.0. The algorithm, the presets and any custom registers can all be recalled exactly.

V2.0 has several new preset banks which use our second algorithm. This second algorithm is our attempt to advance the art in larger than life reverb effects. It is rich in deep chorusing and subtle cascading echos. For simplicities sake it uses the very same parameter set as V1.0, but the feel is very different.

V2.0 also provides the ability to decorrelate the sounds of up to 3 M7s. This is useful when using multiple M7s in surround applications.

Lastly, V2.0 adds 4 simple delays that can be used with or without the reverb. Each delay has a level, delay time, pan and tone parameter. Each delay also has a wet/dry mix which controls how much of the delay is sent into the reverb and how much is sent in parallel with the reverb.

V2.0 upgrades will be free to all M7 owners. The upgrade consists of a pair of proms that are placed in the existing sockets on the main digital board.



-Casey

Wow. Nice one Casey. You guys do the right thing every time!

[David Rick]

I'm not surprised that there's a lot of pent-up demand for the M10. Besides all the big rooms where you can't access a piece of rack gear without moving out of the sweet spot, I'm sure there are others like me who have a strict "no fans in the control room" policy.

The trouble is that the incremental cost of the M10 on top of the M7 puts the total package out of reach for me at present. (It doesn't help that I owned stock in not one but two failed financial services companies! ) I wish there were a Windows-based control applet available so I could put a M7 in the machine room (er, closet) without having to buy a M10.

David L. Rick
Seventh String Recording

[World Studios]

Originally Posted by David Rick

I'm not surprised that there's a lot of pent-up demand for the M10. Besides all the big rooms where you can't access a piece of rack gear without moving out of the sweet spot, I'm sure there are others like me who have a strict "no fans in the control room" policy.

The trouble is that the incremental cost of the M10 on top of the M7 puts the total package out of reach for me at present. (It doesn't help that I owned stock in not one but two failed financial services companies! ) I wish there were a Windows-based control applet available so I could put a M7 in the machine room (er, closet) without having to buy a M10.

David L. Rick
Seventh String Recording

I had a no fans in the control room policy, so it was with some hesitance I got the m7 in for a fan check. I bought it. The fan is the most quiet one I have heard. If you rack it, you are hard pressed to hear it when the room is dead quiet, which it rarely is. Your jeans make a noise, some light sources, the power amps/powered monitors ect. Add to that some clients in the room with you or an open window and the fan noise from the m7 is the least of your worries. Now, if the remote was really cheap, I might get it all the same, but for now I am happy without it. You can always leave it off until mixdown, if you track in the control room.

[danger]

Originally Posted by Casey

Lastly, V2.0 adds 4 simple delays that can be used with or without the reverb. Each delay has a level, delay time, pan and tone parameter. Each delay also has a wet/dry mix which controls how much of the delay is sent into the reverb and how much is sent in parallel with the reverb.

Do you plan to add more effects (flanger, phaser, distortions etc) to a later firmware?

[author]

Originally Posted by Casey

V2.0 upgrades will be free to all M7 owners. The upgrade consists of a pair of proms that are placed in the existing sockets on the main digital board

Just amazing...

[author]

Originally Posted by World Studios

I liked the v 1.0 algos much better. The new ones don't sit as well in the mix and sound artificial. I am putting the old eprom back in its socket. The delays sound way too digital.

LOL!

[World Studios]

Thanks (tak) mate! Why is it only europeans react to or even reply to my posts here? Have the Yanks too much work in their studios? Are they too busy posting their every thought in every thread to read others? Illiterate? - No, they CAN write. I give up, I think they are just happy among themselves. Myopic. Afraid of foreigners, I am sure. ;-)

[peeder]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

This is great news. Well, maybe not so great for those that selected the PCM96 for $200 less.

I couldn't find an M7 for less than $3500 and I picked up a new PCM96 for $2000. Trust me, I would probably have given up the 2 i/o (that I can do instead via firewire) and dual engines to get an M7 instead if it was just $200.

[elambo]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

This is great news. Well, maybe not so great for those that selected the PCM96 for $200 less.

tutt Do you know of anyone who has paid $3,500 for a PCM96, a reverb which lists for $2,999 and some are buying for $1999? Way off this time, Jim.

Sorry Casey - you know I love the Bricasti, but Jim sometimes needs alignment on the specific subject of Lexicon.

[DrSax]

Absolutely love my M7 Casey - and can't wait to hear v2 - and you guys are doing it as a free upgrade - you rock!

[Dean Roddey]

I can't imagine how v.2 is going to change anything if the v.1 algos are kept. It's just more stuff. I like more stuff.

Once you've grown up and your ears have developed as well as ours, you'll be able to hear the horrendous degredation and how having the new algorithms in close proximity to the original ones ruins the texture and depth of the original algorithm. You probably just have crap speakers or converters and can't hear the difference. It's clearly due to the change in placement of the jump opcodes to different locations within the prom. Anyone can hear it.

[anon]

V2 sounds great, I have been thinking of buying one of these and this news has decided it for me, I am really pleased about the the added delays in V2 that is just what I was hoping for.

Can I just ask a question? is the midi implemented? I read somewhere it wasn't working yet, I really need to be able to send patch changes to the unit when I use it live, is this possible? it would be a big omission it it didn't.

Thanks