Which compressor best for Bass?
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Which compressor best for Bass?

Which compressor is a favorite for Bass guitar recording?
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Which compressor is a favorite for Bass guitar recording?
LA2A

DBX 160
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This is gonna turn into one of those threads that lists every compressor out there, isn't it?

But having said that, a Tube Tech CL1B is my main bass compressor, though I've used Vari-Mu's, Vac Racs, Trakkers, LA-2A's, Purples - well, you get the drift...
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This is gonna turn into one of those threads that lists every compressor out there, isn't it?

But having said that, a Tube Tech CL1B is my main bass compressor, though I've used Vari-Mu's, Vac Racs, Trakkers, LA-2A's, Purples - well, you get the drift...
No with the exception of the Distressor and a 160/160X we've pretty much covered everything.
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Except for the lowly 501...
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Playing live, the 3630 is perfectly acceptable. I don't think there is a lot of difference in the "sound" of compressors at the lower frequencies. Attack, release, and averaging/peak parameters in the right range is all that is important.




-tINY
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Tube Tech CL-1B all the way...a gorgeous and versatile comp in my opinion...wondrous on vocals with the right mic and absofrigginlutely fantastic on bass.
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Elop -> Distressor combo is my "go-to"
Elop if I have a decent player and just want the thick.
1176 if I need dirt and more edge to the sound.
DVC -> Distressor if I am doing direct and feeling lazy. This tends to get re-cut in most cases. The low-end on the DVC is kinda weak to my ears. I always end up bumping the eq a little on it.

These setups usually get me where I am going.

My buddy had a VIPRE for a while and it did bass like it was already going through the La2a. Super thick. I think ITB compresssion would work if I had one of these.
However, that was the only trick it did that impressed me.



D
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Retrospec Squeeze box....
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Playing live, the 3630 is perfectly acceptable. I don't think there is a lot of difference in the "sound" of compressors at the lower frequencies. Attack, release, and averaging/peak parameters in the right range is all that is important.


-tINY
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Flame flame flame!

I found the 3630 can not handle bass. It craps out. Bad tINY.

My favorite is DBX 160. Unless someone wants to change my mind by giving me an Atomic Squeezebox.
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Flame flame flame!

I found the 3630 can not handle bass. It craps out. Bad tINY.

My favorite is DBX 160. Unless someone wants to change my mind by giving me an Atomic Squeezebox.
In which case...I would gladly take your DBX 160...he he...
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The Summit TLA-100A is always a winner for me, obviousley similar to an LA-2A but a little cleaner with a few more controls. Definitely not keen on the Alesis 3630 does that horrible clipping thing when the attack is set too fast, generally not a good thing!
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I found the 3630 can not handle bass. It craps out. Bad tINY.
It's probably the power supply not giving enough juice eh?

War
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dbx 160VU, pretty expensive these days but I find it to be great on bass and drums when applied in small doses. The dbx 160XT is also good but with less character.

The main key to a great bass sound IMO is a great player and a plain Fender Precision or Jazz Bass. I hate 'elaborate' basses!

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With the Requisite Pal+ I can set it and forget it The "limiter response" knob lets me adjust how much of the deep low end I want to involve... its a built-in sidechain pretty much...
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I really like LA-2As on bass. Only one knob to turn, and difficult to make it sound bad. Of course these don't work on every song. Sometimes a 1176 works great if you need to add some dirt for rock tracks.

I have heard good things about the EAR 660 on bass, but I have no experience with this unit. Can anyone comment on the EAR for this application (not that I can afford one )?
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I like an LA3A or LA2A on bass. Either one will do.
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Retrospec Squeeze box....

Man, I'd love to find one of those......love that box.
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160 VU and yeah the Requisite Pal's are awe$ome !!!
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Originally Posted by David R.
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I found the 3630 can not handle bass. It craps out. Bad tINY.


Well, I must be living right, because it works for me in the effects loop of my GK bass amp. Of course, I play a 4 string tuned to D.... maybe that's not REAL bass?

With all the lights, you couldn't have possibly overdriven something, could you?



-tINY

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Depends on what you're looking for the compressor to do... if you're looking for a bit of leveling while adding to the thickness of the track then the then Thermionic Culture "Phoenix" has become my latest fave... but for real envelop modification there is nothing I've found that can as much as lick the sweat off the balls of the Purple MC-77 [with the exception of some of the later revision, like D / E revision 1176LN's with the power supply mod].

For overall "hold that sucker at one level all the time with no exceptions" kind of stuff the InnerTube Audio "Atomic Squeezebox" is the shit... so, the question comes right back to... "whaddaya need to do with your bass compression?"
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It sure is hard to beat a nice dbx though overall. Sure there might be favorites for this or that sound, but if you had to have one compressor for bass, I'd say the dbx165, followed closely by the 160x.
They're both just so versatile. Man, you could do wonders with a pair of either of these and a single 1176 in a home or small studio.

later,
m
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The RCA BA6A will definitely get it in your face. Great on vocals too.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tINY


Well, I must be living right, because it works for me in the effects loop of my GK bass amp. Of course, I play a 4 string tuned to D.... maybe that's not REAL bass?

With all the lights, you couldn't have possibly overdriven something, could you?



-tINY

Perhaps you are living right. I really wanted it (3630) to work, because that was the first compressor I bought. I just found that when I inserted it inthe signal path, it could not handle heavy squishing of the bass. I subsequently bought better compressors and had better results.

Your compression may vary.

And, a four string tuned down a step - are you mad, man? Your strings must be flopping all over the place. Get yourself a 5 and be done with it.
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Maybe that's the trick. I don't use more than about 4:1 compression with a soft knee. I don't think I ever get more than about 15dB gain reduction (and that rarely). I'd use something else on recordings if I needed compression... maybe.

As far as the strings: I only need the D and I play the heavies (like .105 on the bottom).



-tINY

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one of my latest favourites is the SOC ... Buzz Audio ...
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For smooth sailing I'd go with the LA2A!
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how about DBX 160S....? I don't know why when i used it....the sound is smaller...?

Can someone tell me why? Thank you very much...
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Purple Action - for that agro 1176 type of sound

DBX 161 (poor mans 160 vu) - for a more classic retro sound

API 525 - my personal fave.. basically lives on the bass for every mix... the other two are great no doubt.. but there's something magical about the 525 when it comes to the lo end.
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