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Old 22nd March 2005   #1
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Drum reverb

I had to record drums in a fairly dead room the other day and compressing the room mics did not give me that space that I needed, so...I decided put some reverb, I have not done this in a while and usually the room mics in a good sounding room are good enought.
So I just put some reverb on the bottom snare mic and that was it...it sounded nice
I was just wandering if any of you still use reverb on drums in complement to the room mics and on which mics do you put it on ?
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Most of the times just a touch of some M3000 ambience programm on overheads, snare and toms. Really nothing too audible, just enough so I feel the mics gell a little more together. Then, if needed, some mono reverb on the snare to give it some more length and depth to create a solid center image of the snare...

Goal is most of the time to not make the reverb evident, but use it for a purpose: length(sustain) or depth.

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Altiverb allaire rooom impulses really do the trick nicely
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A REV 5 and a PCM 70 when I need it. Most of the times the natural room ambience is enough. I have yet to use software 'verb on the kit.
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I mostly use room mics and parallel compression. When I go to outboard reverb it's usually because I'm trying to imply an era. I might gate a send on a snare and put it to an old Yamaha SPX900 to sound like the time when the SPX was new. I might go to a mono "plate" with obvious pre-delay to sound like the 60s.
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PCM 70 does the trick nicely when needed.



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PCM 70 does the trick nicely when needed.
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AMS-RMX still does it for me when i need verb.
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PCM 70 Tiled Room here

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I have no good outboard verbs yet.
I like dry drums but, my room is ASS!
So, I always have a verb bus for the drums.
Mostly, snare and a small amount of overheads.
If the songs gets open and it is appropriate, I will thow the kick to it.

Right now I am digging a 480 impulse response called Small wood room.
It sounds much better than my small carpeted (opps!) room.



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either an M3000 or Ksp8
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AMS-RMX still does it for me when i need verb.
sorry forgot about that one - the AMS is really cool on drums/snare


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Right now I am digging a 480 impulse response called Small wood room.
It sounds much better than my small carpeted (opps!) room.
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Lately, just a little in the snare channel or after the snare's compressor. But I'm waiting the chance to make a completely dry production (drums included).
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I like the PCM 70 tiled room, it need to be eq'd a bit but it works nice. Still looking for a good impulse for SIR of that algo, I have one but it kinda stinks.. I also like to put the room mics to a 480 Large Chamber and add a tiny bit of that in. My latest mix I actually used the new Nuendo Roomworks on the snare and it actually worked, had that grainier PCM 70 sound!!
www.bangrecording.com/music/SEPTEMBER.mp3

Depending on the band's sound, a nice "real room" impulse on the whole kit can work perfectly. SIR and Altiverb are super for this kinda sound wtih the right impulse, especially really smallish kinda rooms that the digital boxes hate to recreate well.

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I like to add a little Lexicon 300 room or plate in with the natural ambience (if I had a 480 or 960, I use that, of course). Sounds richer to me. Another thing I've tried that works well is to have two reverbs on the set, one mixed higher than the other (maybe 75%-25%), then use the same two verbs on other instruments and vocals, with the percentages reversed. Produces a blended, thick reverb, though it's too much for a lot of modern rock. If possible, room sound mainly, with maybe verb on snare and toms. Cymbals don't always need it. (Disclaimer: I don't make commercial recordings, so don't listen to me.)
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