Pearlman TM-1 American tube sound clips? Please?

[sctt_stone]

So I know there are several threads but I did not want this to get buried.
There are samples of the TM-1 with the German tube but none with the American tube.
I am planing on buying one of these mics in a week or so and would love to hear clips of the American version first.
I talked to Dave on the phone today and he said that rather than not making the German version anymore there will be a price increase and no guarantee on the tube.
This is due to the fact that there are a lot of bad tubes being sold.
He recommended the American version but the clips I have heard of the German tube sounded so perfect to me that I can not imagine it getting any better than that.
Anyone with the TM-1 American please post some Vocals!
Thank you
Scott

[TonyBelmont]

Well, if you have to have the german tube... you could get the Peluso 47 LE.

Both the 47 LE and TM1 use the same Peluso capsule and mic body. I think John has a few thousand tubes left, too....

I've always preferred the german tube to the american tubes... sure, they are noisier, but they sound better to my ears.

[mics]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

So I know there are several threads but I did not want this to get buried.
There are samples of the TM-1 with the German tube but none with the American tube.
I am planing on buying one of these mics in a week or so and would love to hear clips of the American version first.
I talked to Dave on the phone today and he said that rather than not making the German version anymore there will be a price increase and no guarantee on the tube.
This is due to the fact that there are a lot of bad tubes being sold.
He recommended the American version but the clips I have heard of the German tube sounded so perfect to me that I can not imagine it getting any better than that.
Anyone with the TM-1 American please post some Vocals!
Thank you
Scott

Hi Scott, the American tube pearlman will sound virtually the same as the german tube version just a little lower noiise floor. the tube used is the 6s7j and is a steel pentode that sounds beautiful and shares many oif the same specs as it's german counterpart. If i were you i would stick with the pearlman as they have a great value on the second hand market and dave is a great guy.

good luck.

[sctt_stone]

Originally Posted by mics

Hi Scott, the American tube pearlman will sound virtually the same as the german tube version just a little lower noiise floor. the tube used is the 6s7j and is a steel pentode that sounds beautiful and shares many oif the same specs as it's german counterpart. If i were you i would stick with the pearlman as they have a great value on the second hand market and dave is a great guy.

good luck.

[johnnybregar]

Below is a clip with the Pearlman TM-1 American Tube on vocal and uke.

Caveats:
1. Lately I've become a kids' musician. So please don't make fun of me. I've sold a hell of a lot more CD's for kids in the last 3 years than I sold over the 20 years I've been a folk rocker...

2. This is a rough mix.

3. I'm putting this song up on good faith. It's about to be released on my next CD. Please don't steal it and use it for a mic demo CD... I'll take the link down in a couple of days.

The TM goes into a Great River MP-2NV, then 1176. I used a Fatso on "3" for warmth, no compression. I was about 6" from the mic.

www.johnnybregar.com/music/bc.mp3

Cheers,

jb

[abhibad]

Thanks Johnny,
It was a very nice effort posting it here, and i like it very much.

[sctt_stone]

Thank you for the clips!
It may be kid music but it sounds great.
Reminds me of a lot of the music you here in Indie films for grown ups nowadays
i like it.

Originally Posted by johnnybregar

Below is a clip with the Pearlman TM-1 American Tube on vocal and uke.

Caveats:
1. Lately I've become a kids' musician. So please don't make fun of me. I've sold a hell of a lot more CD's for kids in the last 3 years than I sold over the 20 years I've been a folk rocker...

2. This is a rough mix.

3. I'm putting this song up on good faith. It's about to be released on my next CD. Please don't steal it and use it for a mic demo CD... I'll take the link down in a couple of days.

The TM goes into a Great River MP-2NV, then 1176. I used a Fatso on "3" for warmth, no compression. I was about 6" from the mic.

www.johnnybregar.com/music/bc.mp3

Cheers,

jb

[johnnybregar]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Thank you for the clips!
It may be kid music but it sounds great.
Reminds me of a lot of the music you here in Indie films for grown ups nowadays
i like it.

Thanks! I try to keep the tunes as pleasing as possible for grown-ups...

[529 Pro Audio]

My website, www.529proaudio.com has a slew of rough mixes from a recent session featuring the TM-1 American on everything from drums, vox, acoustic guitar, and harmonica. Follow the link to the "Ruthless Bible Sessions".

I can't post the songs for download as the record isn't finished, but you may stream them if you have Quicktime (it may take a few minutes to load).

Alternatively, you can listen to four songs from that session via myspace at MySpace.com - 529 Pro Audio - - Other / Other / Other - www.myspace.com/529proaudio

Hope this helps...personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the TM-1 regardless of which tube you choose.

Best,
Chris

[sctt_stone]

Wow. MY TEETH ARE FALLING is beautiful. "THE COLORS OF THE PAST WILL ONLY LEAD TO GRAY" . Great song great sound!
One of the few Myspace songs I have heard that does not suck bad!

Originally Posted by 529 Pro Audio

My website, www.529proaudio.com has a slew of rough mixes from a recent session featuring the TM-1 American on everything from drums, vox, acoustic guitar, and harmonica. Follow the link to the "Ruthless Bible Sessions".

I can't post the songs for download as the record isn't finished, but you may stream them if you have Quicktime (it may take a few minutes to load).

Alternatively, you can listen to four songs from that session via myspace at MySpace.com - 529 Pro Audio - - Other / Other / Other - www.myspace.com/529proaudio

Hope this helps...personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the TM-1 regardless of which tube you choose.

Best,
Chris

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by mics

Hi Scott, the American tube pearlman will sound virtually the same as the german tube version just a little lower noiise floor. the tube used is the 6s7j and is a steel pentode that sounds beautiful and shares many oif the same specs as it's german counterpart. If i were you i would stick with the pearlman as they have a great value on the second hand market and dave is a great guy.

There is a very apparent difference in sound. I hear what seems to be more harmonic distortion and greater noise with the german tube. The American tube version seems cleaner.

I've always preferred the German tube versions of both microphones.

[529 Pro Audio]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Wow. MY TEETH ARE FALLING is beautiful. "THE COLORS OF THE PAST WILL ONLY LEAD TO GRAY" . Great song great sound!
One of the few Myspace songs I have heard that does not suck bad!

Thanks for the kind words. The artist is my lifelong best friend, so I'll be sure to pass them on! Actually, I realized that I had the song title mislabeled when I read your post...that song is actually titled "Ear to the Cup". I have since added two more tracks as I guess Myspace has upped the track limit to 6.

Best,
Chris

[mics]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

There is a very apparent difference in sound. I hear what seems to be more harmonic distortion and greater noise with the german tube. The American tube version seems cleaner.

I've always preferred the German tube versions of both microphones.

If you have 2 fine examples of these tubes, the Harmonic distortion should be inditinguisable, if you are hearing a noticable difference, it is due to the noise floor and other components in the mic circuits.

[jaredm]

Originally Posted by mics

If you have 2 fine examples of these tubes, the Harmonic distortion should be inditinguisable, if you are hearing a noticable difference, it is due to the noise floor and other components in the mic circuits.

Hey Ben, will you be supplying Pearlman mics in Australia? Just curious. What types of mics will BeesNeez make?
cheers,
Jared.

[mics]

Originally Posted by jaredm

Hey Ben, will you be supplying Pearlman mics in Australia? Just curious. What types of mics will BeesNeez make?
cheers,
Jared.

I won't be supplying Pearlman Mics to Australia. As far as BeesNeez MIicrophones, there will eventually be 4 models released. As for the names and styles of mics, they will all be my own with no promise of sounding liike any other mic. They will stand out on their own and will sound like a BeesNeez. All capsules, bodies and power supply's will be made in our factory by me. I am trying to give my mics the things i feel are missing in so many mics today ie point to point and tagboard electrics, hand drilled and milled capsules, incredible output transformers and old school components that cost dollars not cents. I won't be able to make 150 a week like other people who pretend to hand make things, most likely about 2 or 3 per week will be my limit, price will be around the 3000 - 3500 usd.

[rascal9]

Sorry if there was any confusion as to if I would be making the German Tube Version of the TM-1 or not. I can and will still make it altough I am recommending the American Tube Version as it is cleaner, warmer, less expensive, easier to find and in the long run better for the end user in case of ever needing a replacement. Other than that there is no problem. I also still have MANY German tubes and I do try to keep a lot on hand in case any of my clients ever need a replacement. I warn ebay users that there are many unscrupulous sellers that are selling EF tubes that aren't any good. Be careful! Please contact me if there are any questions. Thank you.... Dave

[JMc]

I don't know about American versus German tubes... I just know that could tell the difference between the sound of a Telefunken EF12 and an EF14...

[johnnybregar]

In trying to bring down the noise floor of my TM-1, Dave sent me a bunch of American tubes. I tried about 6 different tubes total and found one that sounded good and had lower noise than the one that shipped with the mic.

In the process of swapping tubes out and listening, I can tell you this: Every single American tube sounded different.

So - anyone that says they can hear the difference between American tubes and German tubes may be correct... but it may just be the natural variation between different tubes you're hearing - not that one is German and one is American.

It's enough of a difference, that it's worth trying a few just for to see if you might get a better vibe out of your tube mic, whatever kind it might be.

[sctt_stone]

Interesting.

Originally Posted by johnnybregar

In trying to bring down the noise floor of my TM-1, Dave sent me a bunch of American tubes. I tried about 6 different tubes total and found one that sounded good and had lower noise than the one that shipped with the mic.

In the process of swapping tubes out and listening, I can tell you this: Every single American tube sounded different.

So - anyone that says they can hear the difference between American tubes and German tubes may be correct... but it may just be the natural variation between different tubes you're hearing - not that one is German and one is American.

It's enough of a difference, that it's worth trying a few just for to see if you might get a better vibe out of your tube mic, whatever kind it might be.

[johnnybregar]

I guess to be fair I should say that in all the swapping tubes, the microphone still sounded like a Pearlman - it retained it's fundamental character. Just some tubes were a little thinner, some rounder sounding, some had a little more high end, and some less....