Neve 183/283 difference

[echorec]

Hi,

I need to get some new boards for a couple of 1883 modules. What´s the difference between the 183 & 283 boards? Can I use either? The modules I have (the ones that don´t miss the boards) seem to have B283AM (half-filled) modules, see pic.

Thanks.

[Fletcher]

Size is about the only difference... functionally they're interchangable [though you still need to check the bias!!]... the B183's board was a bit larger than the B283's but there was all the same stuff in all the same places on both.

If you need any let me know... I have a few hundred of them kicking around in all different states of filled, half filled, recapped, not recapped, working, not working... etc.

[echorec]

Thanks Fletcher,

I need 8 of the 283AM (half filled). I don´t mind doing some recapping as long as the boards are working.

Will send an email.

[Matt M]

hey echorec,

we have a load of 1883 modules here if you need spares.

[Fletcher]

Greg from Orange Sound is looking for a bunch of 1883's

+1 413 533-0900 and/or orange@the-spa.com

[quadwould]

So ther are half filled and Fully filled 183s and 283s. That is established.

my question i would like to add to the mix this.

what are the differences betweenhalf and fully filled cards ( aside friom the obviou bit of having more stuff on em)

where would someone use one or the other, do certan modules Need fully filled, and other only half.

if a fully filled card were put into a module that normally takes a half filled, would that change/add anything or be a waste.

a list of the modules and the corresponding required card would be great

cheers to anyone that can help

[Matt M]

what are the differences betweenhalf and fully filled cards ( aside friom the obviou bit of having more stuff on em) where would someone use one or the other, do certan modules Need fully filled, and other only half.

a fully stuffed 183/283 has a pre-amplifier stage and an output stage. You would find a fully stuffed card in a buss amplifier like a 1272 or channel modules (pre/EQ) like a 1073. The fader loop would be between the stages.

A half stuffed card is just the output stage and is generally found in router modules like your 1883.

if a fully filled card were put into a module that normally takes a half filled, would that change/add anything or be a waste.

it would not change or add anything. I guess you could look at it as a waste.....

a list of the modules and the corresponding required card would be great

sure, give me a couple weeks! just kidding. 183/284 boards were used in many Neve modules from 80xx series consoles. A full list would take a while. You will find fully stuffed 183/283 boards in channel amplifiers (1063-1069, 1073-1080, 1084, 1086, 1088, 1089, 31102, 31104, etc) and some line amplifiers (1272). Half stuff boards can be found in routers such as the 1883, 1903, 1943, 1993, etc. I am obviously leaving out the class AB modules which do not use 183/283 boards at all. Basically, just about any Neve module that is class A will have some form of a 183/283 board in it. There are a few exceptions (older Germanium stuf for example).

[quadwould]

that is helpfull and explains a bit.

i wonder if a 33122 is class A ro AB. i know it is the Discreet version of the (3)3114/3115/3122/3129 channel amps)

i know it doesn't have 183-283s in it (just opened mine last night to see what cards were in it... 437 :( .. whatever it still sounds great.

So the second half of the 1/283s is the Preamp side. Hmmm ok. (planning away i go for DIY stuff....)

[echorec]

Originally posted by Matt M
hey echorec,

we have a load of 1883 modules here if you need spares.

Thanks for the offer, I´ll let you know when/if I need spares.

Fletcher, did you get my email?