CD Writer

BigAl · 25th October 2004

What's a good CD burner for a computer? Are internal just as good as stand alone?

--Al

lukejs · 25th October 2004

HI , I was just reading Bob Katz's book "Mastering Audio" today and he said he doesn't like to bring up names of brands, but believes that Plextor makes very good burners..... and also is very good at audio extraction. As far as External, I think they make external drives too. If it's good for Bob, it's good for me...he's the genius, you know !

MASSIVE Master · 26th October 2004

IMHO, the Plextor Plexwriter Premium is the finest CD-R drive available.

At around $100, it's a no-brainer. Lowest BLER of any drive I've used by far. The PlexTools Professional suite of tools (included) is worth twice the price of the drive alone.

Look Here!

GPl · 26th October 2004

Yes, definately the Plextor Plexwriter Premium/with the plextools proffessional software. I currently have a plextor 712A with plextools pro and works like a charm.

John, I thought the acceptable limit was 220 max/sec, not 220 ave/sec. At least that what it says in the manual.

genericperson · 26th October 2004

most mastering doods do the plextor thing.

lukejs · 26th October 2004

I had no idea about this....I figured my lite on DVD burner would be ok for my mastered disks..... I'm going out to buy my Plextor right now !!! thanks, Luke

MASSIVE Master · 26th October 2004

GPI - I believe the RB states "220 average per second over ten seconds." Which is pretty freakin' scary! If I had a disc that had half of that...

I *could* be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's the specs. Although I guess if you had 220 max/sec, you'd also average 220 average per second. So, 220 max/sec would be a valid (and slightly more stringent) way to interpret that... If you never go over 220, you certainly can't average over 220.

Luke - I'll let you in on a little secret - The "bad" drive (DISC "A") on that page - If you look closely at the "censored" name, you'll notice that it says "Lite-ON LTR (some model number)"

Not that I've got anything against Lite-ON... Except that I've never used one that BLER tested even close to a Plextor... But I digress...

When I was doing all that testing, there was a (Yamaha?) drive that BLER'd much worse (but still within specs). But that LTR had those C2's scattered all over... I could picture the garage band that get's discs like those duped somewhere that doesn't check for errors (like most short-run places)...

I can't even imagine not running the PlexTools Professional suite... It's pretty rare that I get a C2, but it's a much better way to find out about it than anything else I can think of.

Yannick · 26th October 2004

Plextor Premium it is.

In combination with Tayio Yuden, I get 0.5-0.6 C1/s on average.

Audio extraction is also the best.

Yannick

Brad Blackwood · 26th October 2004

Quote:

If your disc has them, it “may” play in “this” CD player, but who knows about “that” CD player?

I've never seen any player not spit out audio due to errors...

Ever heard of interpolation?

lukejs · 26th October 2004

Thanks Massive Master ! Mann....I wonder if that's why some of the DVD's I burned recently have been messing up....little square "pixels" on the the tv. Maybe my Lite on is a POS.... You think it would be ok to believe that since Plextor makes good cd-rw drives, that I should buy their DVD burner ? You think their DVD burner would burn CD's just as good as their cd-rw drives ? Should be the same, right ? The thing is , that I want to burn DVD audio too...... any ideas for the best drive that will burn not only CD's at good quality, but also DVD's ? Or should I just go out and buy individual units? thanks, Luke

MASSIVE Master · 26th October 2004

I recently replaced my DVD drives with Plextors (PX-712A) also - Tried burning some CD's on them - Fine performance.

I still use the CD drive for CD's 90% of the time, but if you get a good burn and a low error rate, it really doesn't make a difference. I just don't want to "burn out" the more expensive DVD drive on CD's.

My new (Sonica-X) DAW came with a Phillips DVD burner... So far, I've left it in the machine (and added a Plextor Plexwriter, of course!) but I haven't had a chance to do a "head-to-head" with it yet...

Yannick · 26th October 2004

If 'm correct the PX-712A also has the C1/C2 error check, so this would indicate that (afa Plextor are concerned) this DVD drive has similar performance.

Yannick

djui5 · 26th October 2004

How does this drive (the plextors) compare to the masterlink?

BigAl · 26th October 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by djui5
How does this drive (the plextors) compare to the masterlink?

I'm all ears for the answer of this question. That Plextor they are talking about can be bought for just $88 buck and that's with free shipping too. Hummm.....high-end for $88. That's scary.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...1&loc=101&sp=1
People do swear about'em though.

lukejs · 26th October 2004

Is there any brand of CD-r that you feel is the most reliable, John ? From your experience at mastering , you probably have tried them all. Which do you recommend ? As far as the Plextor writer, does that come with software for burning REd Book cd's ? Also, You've got a great web site, and really informative stuff on mixing for mastering ! Thanks! Luke

Riad · 26th October 2004

Mitsui Gold...
http://www.americal.com/pd/MIT20201.html

Brad Blackwood · 26th October 2004

No one media performs best with every burner model, but Taiyo Yuden silvers come closest and consistently burn with the lowest errors in Plextor burners, across the board. I've been using TY and Plextors exclusively for about 8-10 years now...

djui5 · 27th October 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Blackwood
No one media performs best with every burner model, but Taiyo Yuden silvers come closest and consistently burn with the lowest errors in Plextor burners, across the board. I've been using TY and Plextors exclusively for about 8-10 years now...

That sorta answers my question....

MASSIVE Master · 27th October 2004

Me too on the Taiyo Yudens.

Someone asked about the Masterlink drives... Alesis changes the drive in the ML about as often as I buy new shoes. So, it really depends on which drive is in yours.

If nothing else - If you burn a disc on an ML, you can always throw it into a Plextor PWP on your DAW and error check it...

amathie · 27th October 2004

From the Plextor website there are two versions of the Premium, an Internal IDE drive and an external USB2 drive (Premium U). Couple of questions;

1. If my DAW is based on a G5 (with an internal Apple DVD-RW) what would be the best way to go? Would the USB version give as good results?

2. What software is being used to burn? I'm very happy at the moment with Bias Peak, exporting Jam files and then burning from Jam.

88fingerz · 27th October 2004

I'm in need of replacing my Pioneer "Superdrive" in my G4 867dp with an internal Plextor. Anyone have experience with this particular scenario? Should I opt for external firewire?

Thanks for any suggestions, Dean

electric · 19th January 2005

hi all,
do the plextor premium USB drives measure up the same as the ATAPI? i would prefer to have usb if they work as well.

electric

25th October 2004	#1
BigAl Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 275 Thread Starter	CD Writer What's a good CD burner for a computer? Are internal just as good as stand alone? --Al

25th October 2004	#2
lukejs Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas Posts: 924	Good Cd burner HI , I was just reading Bob Katz's book "Mastering Audio" today and he said he doesn't like to bring up names of brands, but believes that Plextor makes very good burners..... and also is very good at audio extraction. As far as External, I think they make external drives too. If it's good for Bob, it's good for me...he's the genius, you know !

26th October 2004	#3
MASSIVE Master Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.) IL Posts: 2,632	IMHO, the Plextor Plexwriter Premium is the finest CD-R drive available. At around $100, it's a no-brainer. Lowest BLER of any drive I've used by far. The PlexTools Professional suite of tools (included) is worth twice the price of the drive alone. Look Here! __________________ John Scrip - Massive Mastering, LLC - www.massivemastering.com Spoon-feed a newb some answer and he'll mix for a day - Get him to think about it and figure it out for himself and he'll mix for a lifetime --- JS

26th October 2004	#4
GPl Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,449	Yes, definately the Plextor Plexwriter Premium/with the plextools proffessional software. I currently have a plextor 712A with plextools pro and works like a charm. John, I thought the acceptable limit was 220 max/sec, not 220 ave/sec. At least that what it says in the manual. __________________ Michael Scott --------------------------------------------- "Two degrees in bebop, a PHD in swing, he's the master of rhythm, he's a rock and roll king" -Lowell George- "In my reality it is important that people who use these tools go into them with both eyes wide fvcking open and evaluate them in the context of their work rather than from the perspective of trying to "keep up with the herd" mentality. Peace." -Fletcher-

26th October 2004	#6
lukejs Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas Posts: 924	Thanks John Scrip I had no idea about this....I figured my lite on DVD burner would be ok for my mastered disks..... I'm going out to buy my Plextor right now !!! thanks, Luke

26th October 2004	#5
genericperson Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 521	most mastering doods do the plextor thing.

26th October 2004	#8
Yannick Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brussels Posts: 585	Plextor Premium it is. In combination with Tayio Yuden, I get 0.5-0.6 C1/s on average. Audio extraction is also the best. Yannick __________________ Yannick Willox www.acousticrecordingservice.be (mobile recording)

26th October 2004	#10
lukejs Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas Posts: 924	Thanks for the advice Thanks Massive Master ! Mann....I wonder if that's why some of the DVD's I burned recently have been messing up....little square "pixels" on the the tv. Maybe my Lite on is a POS.... You think it would be ok to believe that since Plextor makes good cd-rw drives, that I should buy their DVD burner ? You think their DVD burner would burn CD's just as good as their cd-rw drives ? Should be the same, right ? The thing is , that I want to burn DVD audio too...... any ideas for the best drive that will burn not only CD's at good quality, but also DVD's ? Or should I just go out and buy individual units? thanks, Luke

26th October 2004	#13
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,661	How does this drive (the plextors) compare to the masterlink?

26th October 2004	#15
lukejs Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas Posts: 924	cd-r media Is there any brand of CD-r that you feel is the most reliable, John ? From your experience at mastering , you probably have tried them all. Which do you recommend ? As far as the Plextor writer, does that come with software for burning REd Book cd's ? Also, You've got a great web site, and really informative stuff on mixing for mastering ! Thanks! Luke

26th October 2004	#16
Riad Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 1,097	Mitsui Gold... http://www.americal.com/pd/MIT20201.html

26th October 2004	#17
Brad Blackwood Craneslut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The home of Rock-n-Roll, Memphis, TN Posts: 1,896	No one media performs best with every burner model, but Taiyo Yuden silvers come closest and consistently burn with the lowest errors in Plextor burners, across the board. I've been using TY and Plextors exclusively for about 8-10 years now...

27th October 2004	#19
MASSIVE Master Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.) IL Posts: 2,632	Me too on the Taiyo Yudens. Someone asked about the Masterlink drives... Alesis changes the drive in the ML about as often as I buy new shoes. So, it really depends on which drive is in yours. If nothing else - If you burn a disc on an ML, you can always throw it into a Plextor PWP on your DAW and error check it...

27th October 2004	#20
amathie Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 58	From the Plextor website there are two versions of the Premium, an Internal IDE drive and an external USB2 drive (Premium U). Couple of questions; 1. If my DAW is based on a G5 (with an internal Apple DVD-RW) what would be the best way to go? Would the USB version give as good results? 2. What software is being used to burn? I'm very happy at the moment with Bias Peak, exporting Jam files and then burning from Jam.

27th October 2004	#21
88fingerz Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,094	I'm in need of replacing my Pioneer "Superdrive" in my G4 867dp with an internal Plextor. Anyone have experience with this particular scenario? Should I opt for external firewire? Thanks for any suggestions, Dean

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