Berliner U77....anyone?

[NoEgo]

Anyone else try this mic yet?

[NoEgo]

Yeah I read some old posts on here. This is a different league. I was looking for an M149 and found it and gambled...I am glad I did. I was told there is a Review next month. Pro Audio Review. I will have to wait to see what they say, but I was sold and I am satisfied..hmmmm where did you go?

[Croaker]

Originally Posted by NoEgo

Yeah I read some old posts on here. This is a different league. I was looking for an M149 and found it and gambled...I am glad I did. I was told there is a Review next month. Pro Audio Review. I will have to wait to see what they say, but I was sold and I am satisfied..hmmmm where did you go?

what do you need a review for if you already have it? haha you review it for us

what does it sound like compared to your other mics?

aloha

[Tomer1]

Berliner CM-33 compare to Km84???

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by Croaker

what do you need a review for if you already have it? haha you review it for us

what does it sound like compared to your other mics?

aloha

Haha... hey buddy!


Well I have a feeling nobody is going to believe much of what I say because most on these pages are skeptical of new, and rightly so I suppose. I thought the review would be less bias because they didn't pay anything. hahha The first thing I see is reference to old posts of their Chinese SD condensers, two years ago...which I already read through before purchasing this mic. This one is hand made in Germany..I was informed, and they advertised in Recording magazine recently. I was looking at getting an M149 and came across this unit. Same price range... (I know, so what they advertised in Recording magazine...is this why you bought it??? There I said it already for those of you who wanted to jump on that one)

I just wanted to see if I could drum up anyone else who bought one. You know to start a club...lol. There are only a few available until the final launch comes out.

If you want my take...I used it for an hour and a half last night, not in a mix or anything...but I would say it is closest to my Pearlman, with a more sweet top end real sweet, and controlled from top to bottom, lots of gain, and more bottom than anything I own.... hand tuned capsule ..each and every one. Modeled after the M7.
(It's not an M7 ...can't be ya da da da da...I know it's not but there is more..) The guy who skinned the M7's at the Neumann factory is the one building these, I believe.

Don't get me wrong I really like the Pearlman but this is a lot more expensive mic too.
It's 3 pattern usual card/omni/fig8 . The power supply is very well built..Looks like the old Neumann units....The body of the mic is beautifully crafted, and the shockmount is like the Blue system ..or maybe even like my U87 but not tapered as this unit is one common circumference.

I don't want to go on too much until I really put it through its paces but maybe I can post some samples beside others in the future and people can be the judge.

I don't sell gear ...so everyone knows... as that is a common reaction to first postings .I have been here for a long time. I promise this is no BS. Only my opinion.

Everything has a first time out. I am a gambler I know... Let's see what the future brings.......of course.....the skeptical will always be... I got a great deal on it though because it was one off the first run.......so let's see what the rest of you scrutinizing sluts think....hahahaha
I believe it was worth the chance. I am very happy so far. ....

I will be surprised if this doesn't bring in the bulls--t brigade....but...like I said...I don't sell gear, and it is my opinion only, so it doesn't matter to me as long as I like it.

[kellyd]

I was curious a couple of NAMM shows ago but they were using the preamp on a $99 Alesis mini mixer. Sure didn't help the mic at all.

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by kellyd

I was curious a couple of NAMM shows ago but they were using the preamp on a $99 Alesis mini mixer. Sure didn't help the mic at all.

Yeah I read that somewhere.
I ran it through the Grace Design (clean clear pre) last night, so I could hear the mic alone. I have a lot of pres to test it out on yet to get a good comparison but if it has the meat it had last night from a crystal clear pre, then I think there are some real possibilities with color pres....or not hahah Who knows until I try them.

[Croaker]

Originally Posted by NoEgo

Haha... hey buddy!


Well I have a feeling nobody is going to believe much of what I say because most on these pages are skeptical of new, and rightly so I suppose. I thought the review would be less bias because they didn't pay anything. hahha The first thing I see is reference to old posts of their Chinese SD condensers, two years ago...which I already read through before purchasing this mic. This one is hand made in Germany..I was informed, and they advertised in Recording magazine recently. I was looking at getting an M149 and came across this unit. Same price range... (I know, so what they advertised in Recording magazine...is this why you bought it??? There I said it already for those of you who wanted to jump on that one)

I just wanted to see if I could drum up anyone else who bought one. You know to start a club...lol. There are only a few available until the final launch comes out.

If you want my take...I used it for an hour and a half last night, not in a mix or anything...but I would say it is closest to my Pearlman, with a more sweet top end real sweet, and controlled from top to bottom, lots of gain, and more bottom than anything I own.... hand tuned capsule ..each and every one. Modeled after the M7.
(It's not an M7 ...can't be ya da da da da...I know it's not but there is more..) The guy who skinned the M7's at the Neumann factory is the one building these, I believe.

Don't get me wrong I really like the Pearlman but this is a lot more expensive mic too.
It's 3 pattern usual card/omni/fig8 . The power supply is very well built..Looks like the old Neumann units....The body of the mic is beautifully crafted, and the shockmount is like the Blue system ..or maybe even like my U87 but not tapered as this unit is one common circumference.

I don't want to go on too much until I really put it through its paces but maybe I can post some samples beside others in the future and people can be the judge.

I don't sell gear ...so everyone knows... as that is a common reaction to first postings .I have been here for a long time. I promise this is no BS. Only my opinion.

Everything has a first time out. I am a gambler I know... Let's see what the future brings.......of course.....the skeptical will always be... I got a great deal on it though because it was one off the first run.......so let's see what the rest of you scrutinizing sluts think....hahahaha
I believe it was worth the chance. I am very happy so far. ....

I will be surprised if this doesn't bring in the bulls--t brigade....but...like I said...I don't sell gear, and it is my opinion only, so it doesn't matter to me as long as I like it.

haha I was just bustin your balls .

Seriously though Lou is a stand up guy. He has a lot of high end gear and knows how to use it. We talk about and compare gear all the time outside of GS and I have always found his opinion valuable and without hype. Im sure people would be interested in hearing the mic.

Doesnt sound like too much of a gamble to me if you got it for a really good price, since you did your homework. If ya wanna send it on over ill test it out for ya

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by Croaker

haha I was just bustin your balls .

Seriously though Lou is a stand up guy. He has a lot of high end gear and knows how to use it. We talk about and compare gear all the time outside of GS and I have always found his opinion valuable and without hype. Im sure people would be interested in hearing the mic.

Doesnt sound like too much of a gamble to me if you got it for a really good price, since you did your homework. If ya wanna send it on over ill test it out for ya

Haha I know that..buddy! I return the compliment I assure you.

I am not sure if the mic would sound right in Hawaii though. hmmm It was made with 4 seasons in mind you know. You know there is gear you have that would be a pleasure for me to own, if'n you want me to find one of these........certain guitar's, amps, drums, not just any guitars, amps, drums...of course....all those things you just don't need anymore really! You should clean house and let me take those things off your hands.

[Dirty Gear Pimp]

a friend of mine here in town has the u77. and he knows the guy who started the berliner company (which is also here in orlando). i didnt get a chance to plug the mic in. but i did get my hands on it for a few moments. when he first told me about it, i was thinking it was going to be a chinese knockoff. and i was waay wrong! i would have to say its VERY well built physically. the body is sturdy and solid. the power supply is nice and heavy duty. and none of it looks to be chinese constuction at all. it looked really top notch. my buddy was telling me that the capsule is made by some guy who used to work for neumann or gefell or something like that. the whole thing is hand built. its pretty unique looking. i probably can go test it out sometime when i get some free time. the only thing is i dont think i have access to other mics of this caliber to put it up against. i mean tube mic wise, i only have access to a m147, a soundelux u95, a se electronics z5600 and 5500 some akg solidtubes. i wish i knew someone around who had a elam 251, a u47, a c12 and one of those old neumann bottle style cmv.

[seaneldon]

Originally Posted by Dirty Gear Pimp

my buddy was telling me that the capsule is made by some guy who used to work for neumann or gefell or something like that...

Complete and utter hearsay. Neumann and Gefell have been two different companies for a long time. What if I told you I was driving a new affordable car with an engine designed by some guy that used to work for Ferrari or Maserati or something? If it is true...who says this "some guy" wasn't a janitor at Neumann or Gefell?

[tony666]

Originally Posted by seaneldon

Complete and utter hearsay. Neumann and Gefell have been two different companies for a long time. What if I told you I was driving a new affordable car with an engine designed by some guy that used to work for Ferrari or Maserati or something? If it is true...who says this "some guy" wasn't a janitor at Neumann or Gefell?

His capsules probably come from Thiersch Elektroakustik . I'd rather have a capsule from him than one from Telefunken USA, a brand you guys are selling and somehow promoting.

[seaneldon]

I said nothing regarding the quality/sound of the capsule in the Berliner microphone. I was simply questioning it's origin due to the nature of the above quote and because I'm generally skeptical with such hearsay. If it is a Thiersch capsule, it would certainly raise my interest in hearing this mic, despite the fact that there are people (heavy hitters, at that) in this industry who have been less than satisfied with some of his reskin work. For what it's worth...the capsule in the Berliner tube mic looks IDENTICAL to a Gefell M7.

Another thing is that I don't go around "selling" Telefunken USA microphones (though I do happily use them myself, frequently!). Many people have purchased them from our shop, but that doesn't mean I'm "selling" them.

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by tony666

His capsules probably come from Thiersch Elektroakustik . I'd rather have a capsule from him than one from Telefunken USA, a brand you guys are selling and somehow promoting.

This is what I have been told...We will see soon I suspect. The mic is great...and skeptics won't change that for me. No offense aimed at anyone.

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by seaneldon

Complete and utter hearsay. Neumann and Gefell have been two different companies for a long time. What if I told you I was driving a new affordable car with an engine designed by some guy that used to work for Ferrari or Maserati or something? If it is true...who says this "some guy" wasn't a janitor at Neumann or Gefell?

By the way.just thought I would mention...the mic is listing for about $3900 or something they said....so that constitutes a higher end price point I think...not an affordable bargain. I believe I received a smoking deal but also took a gamble. I won't discuss my purchase price no but I will say I didn't buy it until I did some research.
Still could be wrong...but it will come out eventually...it's important that people understand though that I am not trying to sell them, just bringing my find to fellow gs'rs ..take it or leave it.

Lou

[Dirty Gear Pimp]

Originally Posted by seaneldon

Complete and utter hearsay. Neumann and Gefell have been two different companies for a long time. What if I told you I was driving a new affordable car with an engine designed by some guy that used to work for Ferrari or Maserati or something? If it is true...who says this "some guy" wasn't a janitor at Neumann or Gefell?

well if it was a nice car, the engine was a nice design, and mechanically sound, then id say he did a good job paying attention to what the engineers were doing while he was cleaning! and im sure ferrari or maserati would miss him dearly cause he probably did a good job cleaning the floors as well

ill contact my friend and see if he knows who actually makes the capsule, where the capsule is made and other stuff like that.

i found a pic on google images which shows the inside of the mic:

[NoEgo]

Pro Audio Review - June 2008


Here is a review that just came out. Maybe I am not the only one who has tried it ....and likes this mic.

Lou

[peeder]

I'd read magazines for facts, and gearslutz for opinions.

(Though both will leave many important ones out... )

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by peeder

I'd read magazines for facts, and gearslutz for opinions.

(Though both will leave many important ones out... )

Thanks but.....I don't have to cause I bought one.

[peeder]

The magazine article did make it clear this is a mylar and not PVC capsule.

Is there a US dealer with a 30-day approval period (and no effing restocking fee)?

Originally Posted by seaneldon

Another thing is that I don't go around "selling" Telefunken USA microphones (though I do happily use them myself, frequently!). Many people have purchased them from our shop, but that doesn't mean I'm "selling" them.

Well, it depends on what the definition of "is" is.

But yeah, Adam is the one who is told to hawk the phony tele's on the webs.

[Mumblesound]

Originally Posted by seaneldon

Another thing is that I don't go around "selling" Telefunken USA microphones (though I do happily use them myself, frequently!). Many people have purchased them from our shop, but that doesn't mean I'm "selling" them.

You just happen to have a bunch around for no particular reason, and if people want to buy them...
"that's cool, whatever, take it or leave it, don't matter to me none"...

Something like that?

[NoEgo]

[quote=peeder;2349683]The magazine article did make it clear this is a mylar and not PVC capsule.

Is there a US dealer with a 30-day approval period (and no effing restocking fee)?



My dealer in Canada has this ...but not necessarily the product I always want.

[borism]

I just wanted to point that I recently came across the U77 review and I have to say that the impressions expressed by the reviewer are pretty close to my personal experience with the mic the first time I tried it,
I've been using a U77 for a few months and is just an amazing mic
Sounds open, organic, present but also natural and unprocessed in a very good way, and sits great in the mix with minimal post-process.
A very 3d like sound.
Dana, from Berliner personally came to the studio so we could test it, great people to deal with.
The mic construction is beautiful and solid and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend anyone to take a leap of faith and get one
Just my 2 cents
Cheers
Boris

[NoEgo]

I am glad to see it's catching on. It helps to support one's judgement with other sources. Thanks for posting Boris. Good gear is good gear!!

[mics]

I haven't heard the mic, but coming from a manufacturers point of view, that mic is a breath of fresh air and seems to be one of the very few ahnd made and not copied mics available on the market today. i would love to hear it, though i am sure the sound is amazing. ben

[jjblair]

I like the Russian mil spec PIO coupling cap. Raytheon JAN tubes are the shit. I recently got turned onto them by a tube guru.

It's good to see that somebody is putting that much thought into component selection. I've been beating that drum for a while, like a dead horse, as some have noticed.

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by mics

I haven't heard the mic, but coming from a manufacturers point of view, that mic is a breath of fresh air and seems to be one of the very few ahnd made and not copied mics available on the market today. i would love to hear it, though i am sure the sound is amazing. ben

Hey mic...

You are a manufacturer? You do your own caps?

[mics]

Originally Posted by NoEgo

Hey mic...

You are a manufacturer? You do your own caps?

Hi there, yes i am a manufacturer and i make my own capsules. i will attach a pic for you to check out.

[NoEgo]

Originally Posted by LA VERDAD

Come on share the experience.. $2350 final price..good god! Either this guy got a good deal before this mic explodes in the market as to being an good mic or just got fooled and spent way over for what its really worth..

What or who are you talking about? Anyone know? Did I miss something? Is this addressed to me?

Thanks for the pics Mic.

[Croaker]

Originally Posted by LA VERDAD

Come on share the experience.. $2350 final price..good god! Either this guy got a good deal before this mic explodes in the market as to being an good mic or just got fooled and spent way over for what its really worth..

I dont think he got fooled. I trust Noego's ears because I know him and how well he knows his gear and have heard his recordings (yes including a clip of this mic). I also had a chance to get one at this price but just didnt have the cash to pull the trigger or I would of.

I am sure if you pm him he will share his thoughts and some samples for ya.

aloha