Zero latency monitoring without Desk ..motu HD192 or Lynx Aurora or anything else?

[mrsbrahms]

I am changing my set up from 2 mackie desks to the neve 8816 summing mixer...
The plan is to feed the 16 ins with 16 out either from Motu HD192's(poss with Black Lion upgrades) or Lynx aurora (or anything that is better at that price??????)..
The big problem is that the Motu has CUE MIX which is amazing and alaws you to set up
as many Zero Latency configurations as you want save them..You can set up complete mixes from the ins to any outs ..set up pans with in the mix great for setting up Zero monitoring mixes for recording live mixes into the HD 192 and directly into the computer..
The Lynx doesnt have this facility ....it has a very basic version of this but nowhere near as easy to use or comprehensive....

any thoughts on what to get....and not sacrifice on D/a into the 8816....?????
i want to rack all this in to a small portable set up..so i want it as comact and mixer less as possible....
ROB

[cyork]

I believe that if you were to pick up the 8804 (fader pack for the 8816) you gain direct out functionality to the setup. The fader pots on the 8816 become controls for the Cue sends.

With that setup the only other thing you might consider is a patch bay to allow you to switch your input path from your mics pres to the DAW output when you're using it for summing rather than live mixing.

AMS also has some ppt slides which outline some routing scenarios on they're website as well.

Enjoy,
Chad

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by mrsbrahms

The Lynx doesnt have this facility ....it has a very basic version of this but nowhere near as easy to use or comprehensive....

ROB

It really depends on how your interfacing the Aurora with your computer.
As well as what your computer is, but I have many clients using the Aurora with the AES 16, and Hardware Monitoring, and its perfect, as you never have to touch the Lynx Mixer and it simply allows you this zero latency routing function.

But the 8816 should supply you with the facility to monitor how you want with excellent results. I would just use the Direct Outputs of the 8816 [with fader pack] to send a direct signal into your converter POST monitor with the channel muted in your DAW.

[mrsbrahms]

i just cant seem to get my head around it...
If i buy the 8816 and connect its 16 in's to the 16 ANALOGUE out of the Aurora via DACS..LOVELY and clean ....summing mixing sorted ...Also i connect to the LYNX AES PCI card DIGITALY ...great...

I have then a rack of 12 lovely pre amps... i connect them to my Aurora ANALOGUE ins..
Hard wired ,cos its a portable set up to record anywhere...

I want to record drums 12 mics , the drummer wants to hear his kit along with all the other stuff recorded...with zero latency...

If i substitute the AURORA with a HD192 in the above ,it would take me 30 sec to set up a sub mix in CUE mix that comes with the MOTU and send it all submixed to 2 INS On the 8816 ,send to drummer via the Cue on the 8816 ...

I just want to be able to do that with the lynx Aurora without having to buy the $2000 fader pack. and have to take up 3 extra u for the fader pack in my portable
set up...
OR AM I MISSING THE OBVIOUS?????

I want the LYNX quality A/d but its not as well featured as the MOTU with its CUE MIX programme???
ANY THOUGHTS

[Tom H]

Best thing would be to split the outputs of your preamps; one into the Lynx and the other into a cheap rackmount mixer (Ashly, Rane etc.) simply create a headphone mix from there; zero latency.

The 8816 has some cue options too wich you could also send to the other mixer, I recommend you download the pdf manual from the AMS-Neve site for some info on how to use the cues.