Stereo 500 Equalizer

[Lucin Niega]

Hey All,

I'm looking for a stereo linkable 500 Eq to blow my dough on. Does such a thing exist. I recently purchased a lunch box and an EM-PEQ and I'm lovin' it. Now I need a stereo Eq for the return of my harmonizer.

[Dan]

another peq?

something with switches, like the 550. That's pretty easy to stereo match.

[Lucin Niega]

Yeah, I want another (couple) eq that's easy to match. Indented knobs maybe? I'll check out the 550.

[Roc Mixwell]

how bout a pair of Purple "ODD" Inductor EQ's
I know you can't link them, but who cares when EQ's sound this good!

Just a thought

[Lucin Niega]

I've definitley been thinking about that. I was just wondering what else is out there though.

[NathanEldred]

I don't think there is a linkable EQ in the 500 series. There are probably only one or two even in rack gear. Aside from the nice ones mentioned also in this thread, the Buzz Audio Tonic is ear candy.

The Tonic 500 VPR series compatible equalizer

[Lucin Niega]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

the Buzz Audio Tonic is ear candy.

I've been thinking about this one too. Does it have indented knobs? Do any of the 500 series eq's?

[flute player]

How about putting them into this Avedis Audio R52 Two Space, Dual Space, Double Space: Professional Audio Electronics, Vintage Pro Audio, 500 Series Rack Mount
I see a link 1-2 switch in this unit.
The one from A-designs has not got it.
Or don't I have it right.

Greetz,

Paul

[Lucin Niega]

Originally Posted by flute player

How about putting them into this Avedis Audio R52 Two Space, Dual Space, Double Space: Professional Audio Electronics, Vintage Pro Audio, 500 Series Rack Mount
I see a link 1-2 switch in this unit.
The one from A-designs has not got it.
Or don't I have it right.

Greetz,

Paul

Hey Paul,

That's pretty cool! I've seen that rack before, but I didn't realize it had a link switch. The thing is, is that I've just purchased an API Lunch box, so I'd rather not spend the money on another rack.

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by flute player

How about putting them into this: Avedis Audio R52 Two Space,
I see a link 1-2 switch in this unit.
The one from A-designs has not got it.
Or don't I have it right.

The link function on the R52 isn't the same type of 'link' that allows you to link two EQ's or comps where one unit is the master, so if you think it will do that it will not. From the Avedis website:

"What does the LINK switch do?

The LINK switch, sometimes called a "patch" by the Australians, allows Channel 1's output to connect to Channel 2's input without cutting Channel 1's output, so you could record the 1 and 2 outputs independently. This is great if you have a preamp on Channel 1 and an equaliser or compressor on Channel 2 and want to record both signals at the same time. Once the Link is engaged, Channel 2's input is disconnected."

[Tim Farrant]

Originally Posted by Lucin Niega

I've been thinking about this one too. Does it have indented knobs? Do any of the 500 series eq's?

The Tonic could be supplied with 41 position Alps pots. I have these pots in stock for the cut/boost controls, but not for the mid frequency control (might take 8 weeks to get here).

This would put another US$30/$35 on the street price, Alps do charge a premium for their parts unless you order 10,000 pcs!

Edit; now I think about it, having a detented pot on the mid sweep freq might not be such a good idea because the frequency you want might be between 2 clicks. I dunno, thoughts?

Tim.

[Lucin Niega]

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Edit; now I think about it, having a detented pot on the mid sweep freq might not be such a good idea because the frequency you want might be between 2 clicks. I dunno, thoughts?

Tim.

Prototype maybe?

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by Lucin Niega

Hey All,

I'm looking for a stereo linkable 500 Eq to blow my dough on.

True linkable eq's will be digitally controlled. The TLA EQ-2 is linkable, controlled digitally. SPL makes a mastering EQ that is linkable (also digi controlled), much $$$. That's about it.

The only other option is a dedicated stereo eq like the Gyraf, the only one I know of that's a pro-audio stereo EQ with 1 set of controls.

[TonyBelmont]

Why would you possibly need linkable EQ's for the returns of your harmonizer? I could see if this was a mastering situation. But, I use 2 x Avedis E27's on my STEREO BUSS without thinking twice all the time.

[Tim Farrant]

Originally Posted by Lucin Niega

Prototype maybe?

Does not need to be prototyped, simple change and it will work. It's just if the mid sweep frequency had detents, then this would make fine adjustment tricky because the control sweeps 4 octaves.

[squeegybug]

I really like stereo-linked EQs. One hand on the EQ controls, one hand on the mixer faders, or compressor.... easy. Almost impossible to find. Avalon 747 is one, very nice but not parametric. Focusrite Mixmaster is another, but only one semi-parametric filter. Yes there are old Neumanns that might or might not need some TLC to get racked and powered and working. And the GR has a sort-of linked option for the frequencies and B/W, but the levels are all separate. I would have bought one if it had been true stereo control.

The best stereo EQ I have found is Weiss EQ1-MK2, digital only of course. If you want analog parametric then look to Gyraf as mentioned. Sorry no help for the 500 format.

I have asked various EQ designers for this capability over the years, have been told 'no one wants them'. I think one real reason is that it costs more, so they are reluctant to get above the competition in price. I believe this option could instead be a way to make their product more unique. And I know a lot of folks who would buy such a thing just for that functionality.

Steve

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by squeegybug

I have asked various EQ designers for this capability over the years, have been told 'no one wants them'. I think one real reason is that it costs more, so they are reluctant to get above the competition in price. I believe this option could instead be a way to make their product more unique. And I know a lot of folks who would buy such a thing just for that functionality.

Steve

Linking EQ's certainly costs more, but a stereo EQ with one set of controls is a little cheaper to make than a dual mono 'Stereo'. Of course stereo eq with one set of controls means you can't use it as 2 independent Eq's, which makes it less valuable to most....hence the issue.

Yet It didn't stop Gyraf and being they have no competition in this field, they are probably doing just fine with it.

[jlcl]

I would think the Daking Plus digitally controlled eq would work great. As far as I know they have the exact same circuitry as the rack mount eq's, which are great on mixes. Though I haven't seen them about.

I have a pair of the non linking Lil peqr's from eisen, they are fantastic on mixes easily matched if you ask me.

As for the stepped knob for the mid range two options could be just a few specifically chosen frequencies or a switch to add plus or minus a certain value to defeat the missing range. I'd wonder if this could also be a pull push knob. I would guess it would seriously change the form factor though.

Also I scored a purple audio sweet ten truly awesome. SOO much more rugged then standard api racks. Can't wait to fill it up with bizes, odds, elixers, germaniums, octographs, and who knows!!

chebon

[flute player]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

The link function on the R52 isn't the same type of 'link' that allows you to link two EQ's or comps where one unit is the master, so if you think it will do that it will not. From the Avedis website:

"What does the LINK switch do?

The LINK switch, sometimes called a "patch" by the Australians, allows Channel 1's output to connect to Channel 2's input without cutting Channel 1's output, so you could record the 1 and 2 outputs independently. This is great if you have a preamp on Channel 1 and an equaliser or compressor on Channel 2 and want to record both signals at the same time. Once the Link is engaged, Channel 2's input is disconnected."

Thank Nathan, i didn't know that

Paul

[futur2]

exactly! i wanted one for a long time, it just makes no sense to turn so many knobs on two sides for stereo, it's just inconvenient. i tried to get some neumann stereo eq but failed, so i just bought a gyraf now!

i can't understand why not more people want this.

Originally Posted by squeegybug

I really like stereo-linked EQs. One hand on the EQ controls, one hand on the mixer faders, or compressor.... easy. Almost impossible to find. Avalon 747 is one, very nice but not parametric. Focusrite Mixmaster is another, but only one semi-parametric filter. Yes there are old Neumanns that might or might not need some TLC to get racked and powered and working. And the GR has a sort-of linked option for the frequencies and B/W, but the levels are all separate. I would have bought one if it had been true stereo control.

The best stereo EQ I have found is Weiss EQ1-MK2, digital only of course. If you want analog parametric then look to Gyraf as mentioned. Sorry no help for the 500 format.

I have asked various EQ designers for this capability over the years, have been told 'no one wants them'. I think one real reason is that it costs more, so they are reluctant to get above the competition in price. I believe this option could instead be a way to make their product more unique. And I know a lot of folks who would buy such a thing just for that functionality.

Steve

[TanTan]

Originally Posted by Lucin Niega

Hey All,

I'm looking for a stereo linkable 500 Eq to blow my dough on. Does such a thing exist. I recently purchased a lunch box and an EM-PEQ and I'm lovin' it. Now I need a stereo Eq for the return of my harmonizer.

I'd take a pair of 550B's , i have a 5500 EQ which is amazing, so versatile and usefull , just take two consecutive serial numbers and you are there

[666666]

Originally Posted by TanTan

I'd take a pair of 550B's, i have a 5500 EQ which is amazing...

Yes.

Having to turn two knobs at the same time for stereo processing is indeed a pain, but if you have nicely detented eqs like 550Bs/5500, it's quite easy. You still need two hands to go simultaneously, but at least when those detents click, you know you're dead matched on each side.... you almost do not even need to look at the controls. With a non-detented eq, it's a real pain to match and thus way more inconvenient.

[MIKEHARRIS]

There are very few linked stereo EQ's....using just the left (or right) side of a 4 channel Sontec would do well
...most folks just flip the phase of channel B...and null out channel A. This will give actual matching better than any other method

Now were too lazy to turn two sets of controls??

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by MIKEHARRIS

Now were too lazy to turn two sets of controls??

I think the poster was more concerned about matching the settings of the left and right side than having one master control.

[Lucin Niega]

Originally Posted by MIKEHARRIS

Now were too lazy to turn two sets of controls??

I've just recently purchased the EM-PEQ. In fact it is my first eq. After listening to what it did for my recordings, I soon realized that the output of my harmonizer needed to be eq'd as well. Before writting this thread I had no idea of the scarcity of a stereo linked eq. Now I know, thanks gearslutz.

[Audio Hombre]

i'm surprised that al.so doesn't make one seeing that they make a stereo 500 series preamp