Good Monitors with RCA (unbalanced inputs)?????

[Mr. Nice]

thus far i know the Adam A7s have them. any others im missing?

thnx!

[Crash]

Doesn't the "THX" approved version of the Hr824s have them as well? Seems like I rmember my buddies pair has them. It looks like the new Mackie MR 8 and MR 5 also have RCA inputs as well.

[AKAT-1]

NHT pro's- at least the M00's do for sure...

[Mr. Nice]

thnx!

anymore....

[barefoot]

Any monitor with a balanced input can receive an unbalanced signal. You just need an adapter:

Neutrik - Audio - Circular Adapters - NA2MPMF
Mogami Gold XLR-RCA Cable 12ft | VintageKing.com

[Mr. Nice]

Originally Posted by barefoot

Any monitor with a balanced input can receive an unbalanced signal. You just need an adapter:

Neutrik - Audio - Circular Adapters - NA2MPMF
Mogami Gold XLR-RCA Cable 12ft | VintageKing.com

what's the effect on the sound and dB levels?

[John Willett]

Good Monitors with RCA (unbalanced inputs)?????

They don't exist.

If it's an unbalanced input it's unlikely to be a good monitor.

[AKAT-1]

Originally Posted by John Willett

They don't exist.

If it's an unbalanced input it's unlikely to be a good monitor.

So in that case the SSL4000 must be a crappy desk because the master mix bus isn't balanced either- interesting...

[barefoot]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

what's the effect on the sound and dB levels?

It should have almost zero effect on the sound quality unless you're running long cables.

Levels depend on the specific source device and speaker sensitivity. Typically speaking, however, it's reasonably safe to assume that -10bBV consumer sources are about -8dB lower than +4dBu professional balanced sources. Nonetheless, in my experience the input sensitivity of most active monitors can be adjusted high enough such that an unattenuated -10bBV signal from a CD player, for example, sends the speaker well into heavy distortion and/or clipping. So, more often than not, you're going to max out the speaker volume before your volume knob reaches its clockwise limit. Of course, confirm this with your specific gear before making a purchase.

Thomas

[Mr. Nice]

Originally Posted by barefoot

It should have almost zero effect on the sound quality unless you're running long cables.

Levels depend on the specific source device and speaker sensitivity. Typically speaking, however, it's reasonably safe to assume that -10bBV consumer sources are about -8dB lower than +4dBu professional balanced sources. Nonetheless, in my experience the input sensitivity of most active monitors can be adjusted high enough such that an unattenuated -10bBV signal from a CD player, for example, sends the speaker well into heavy distortion and/or clipping. So, more often than not, you're going to max out the speaker volume before your volume knob reaches its clockwise limit. Of course, confirm this with your specific gear before making a purchase.

Thomas

Good Stuff!

Im looking to connect some monitors to a Grace M902 and didn't want to get limited to Adam A7s. I just don't want to spend a couple of grand on some decent monitors and not get the most out of them cuz im running an unbalanced out (M902) to a balanced in and then the problem with attenuation and what not.....

[barefoot]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

Im looking to connect some monitors to a Grace M902 and didn't want to get limited to Adam A7s. I just don't want to spend a couple of grand on some decent monitors and not get the most out of them cuz im running an unbalanced out (M902) to a balanced in and then the problem with attenuation and what not.....

The m902 has a "High Gain" mode where you can boost the outputs by 10dB. You probably won't need it, but you're definitely covered in case your monitors have lower input sensitivity.

Thomas

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

Im looking to connect some monitors to a Grace M902 .....

There is a balanced output modification for the Grace m902.

I have this unit and got an e-mail from Grace recently about the mod.

I am getting mine converted now.

It's a circuit change and the two phono (Cinch) output sockets are replaced with TRS standard jacks.

I suggest you get the Grace modded - you can then use any active monitors (I use the K+H O110D).

Details on the balance mod. are HERE.

[Mr. Nice]

yeah i new about that mod b4 it was ever even made public but i see no reason to spend more money for now since i just got it 2nd hand and am runnin very short cables to some active nearfield monitors mi casa. i don't think the high-gain works on the output or does it?

[Mr. Nice]

Originally Posted by John Willett

There is a balanced output modification for the Grace m902.

I have this unit and got an e-mail from Grace recently about the mod.

I am getting mine converted now.

It's a circuit change and the two phono (Cinch) output sockets are replaced with TRS standard jacks.

I suggest you get the Grace modded - you can then use any active monitors (I use the K+H O110D).

Details on the balance mod. are HERE.

is it really necessary to spend more money on a balanced M902 if it's kinda the same in the end? I mean what are the benefits here? I can simply get the adapter and connect as Mr. Barefoot suggested (nice product BTW) and not lose sound quality or is there something else???? plz note that my cable lengths is going to be about 5ft.

[danasti]

Originally Posted by AKAT-1

So in that case the SSL4000 must be a crappy desk because the master mix bus isn't balanced either- interesting...

No, he didn't say unbalanced consoles and wasn't talking about balanced vs. unbalanced in general. He just said that you are unlikely to find an unbalanced connection on a highend pair of monitor amps. That's a pretty true statement.

[Mr. Nice]

Do you guys think it's a waste to get a set of ADAM S1As+SUB (system1-10) and hook them up to my M902 or is this just crazy talk

[John Willett]

First I would get the balanced mod. done to the Grace m902.

But, personally, I am not an Adams fan.

[Mr. Nice]

is it truly necessary? on some other site (cant remember which one but some dude who designs this stuff said that the M902 mod was nothing more than marketing and somewhat useless)?