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Old 6th February 2008   #1
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rupert NEVE on you tube...

what do you think about what he is says about the full spectrum of music being reproduced?

YouTube - Rupert Neve sends greetings to Audio Warehouse
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the portico is audio prozac? prozacico
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I think ol' Rupert is pulling our uh, legs with all that brain radiation stuff.

Not that music doesn't affect our brains in amazing ways but not having the full spectrum present isn't going to make you invade Iraq.

Wait, doesn't George listen to MP3s on an iPod?

Maybe Rupert IS on to something here.

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That is trippy...
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Here is a link to one of the studies that Rupert was referring to.

Inaudible High-Frequency Sounds Affect Brain Activity: Hypersonic Effect -- Oohashi et al. 83 (6): 3548 -- Journal of Neurophysiology

He will be the first to admit that there is much that we are still learning, however I've been convinced that he, and others are on to something here.

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I think ol' Rupert is pulling our uh, legs with all that brain radiation stuff.
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why is that so strange? radiation might sound a bit off, but the human brain that is essentially a biocomputer radiates an electrical field, which changes with different brain patterns (thinking).
Measure those while , measure those while listening to crappy mp3s, compare to brain patterns of agressive people, and there you have it.



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Maybe I should buy a Portico, otherwise I might be responsible for wars and revolutions.
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sniffing too much solder makes rupert a dull boy
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why is that so strange? radiation might sound a bit off, but the human brain that is essentially a biocomputer radiates an electrical field, which changes with different brain patterns (thinking).
Measure those while , measure those while listening to crappy mp3s, compare to brain patterns of agressive people, and there you have it.



edit: what Josh said ^^^^
I think of the brain as a transformer of sorts
north south right brain left brain
getting them to work t0gether is the trick

kinda like growing weed gotta know how to shock it
to get the fruits

I think its best to understand all the different types of electricty
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This reminds me of the way the scientific community reacted to Linus Pauling's statements about vitamin C (made in his '80s) and his recommendation for taking mega doses of C. According to current wisdom, the body can absorb only so much (less then what Pauling suggested) and the rest is eliminated. On the other hand, nobody wanted to come out and say Pauling was dead wrong since he was, after all, Linus Pauling, the man responsible for laying the foundations for the discovery of the DNA double helix.

Neve occupies a corresponding position in audio. After all, Neve was the first to design ultra-wide bandwidth preamps with the notion that if harmonics beyond our hearing existed in nature, then maybe we shouldn't ignore them — and how many of today's boxes are based on his designs? Rather than write him off, perhaps we might be a little more gentle in our judgments. After all, he may be right . . . one way or another, he is Rupert Neve.

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Rather than write him off, perhaps we might be a little more gentle in our judgments. After all, he may be right . . . one way or another, he is Rupert Neve.
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I totally agree. He looks like a sweet loving old man, and I imagine he just wants to serve humainty as best he knows.

What he says totally tallys with the philosphies of ancient Inida. Infact they suggested the universe was simply a vibration, one big manifestation of sound - Nada. Thus, singing a certain raga can make it rain etc.

Kings of ancient India were not considered fit to rule if they did not display appreciation of music. The rishis steered musical trend so that it helped the musician and the audience internalise, and explore the abstract. And most of all experience PEACE.

I know the portico gets a bashing sometimes, but lets take his idealism as something to work towards. And lets not forget what he's done for us.
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thumbsup Well said and so true.
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Rupert is into alternative therapies? Will we see healing crystals in his new designs?
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I like the man!

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This reminds me of the way the scientific community reacted to Linus Pauling's statements about vitamin C (made in his '80s) and his recommendation for taking mega doses of C. According to current wisdom, the body can absorb only so much (less then what Pauling suggested) and the rest is eliminated. On the other hand, nobody wanted to come out and say Pauling was dead wrong since he was, after all, Linus Pauling, the man responsible for laying the foundations for the discovery of the DNA double helix...
Very interesting. Thanks to a flu shot, I got waaaaaay sick a couple of years ago and kept deteriorating. I started looking like Christian Bale in The Machinist. Western medicine (i.e. doctors) did nothing for me (and refused to admit fault from the flu shot a doctor recommended I take) so I started seeking "alternative" therapies. Oddly enough, I recovered over time while taking massive doses of Vitamin C. I found I could take 600 mg every few hours...hmmm, I think I had a music-related point but I lost it.
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bravo I say
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That was fk'n WEIRD!!
But who am I to argue with that?
Neve's do funny stuff to my brain and ears.
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Surely, he's joking...
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I was actually looking for a piece of gear that will reproduce the benign frequencies that are imbedded in the music that I really want to listen to. And make my frustrations disappear. If it compliments human hearing, that'll be great too.
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It would be interesting to learn how they have actually tested this theory. I have an open mind, I would be keen to learn more. It's cool to make a statement like that, but is it just a theory or is there real world tests to show these brain wave attributes?

I have to agree however that sonically an extended bandwidth is more pleasing than a narrow one.

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Dad ..will Portico make my frustrations disappear?
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Rupert Neve has been talking about this stuff since the incident of the wrongly terminated transformers. there have been several studies since then to shown humans can perceive out of band frequencies and to show the brains reaction. we are only just scratching the surface to understanding the brain so i dont think anything will be proven for along time but there is certainly the evidence to support the theories.

anyway Rupert is correct in whats hes saying although most people wouldn't call brain waves radiation but electrical signals are emitted and i think making the leap to causing wars is a bit much but ill forgive an old man for his wording. He does seem to like to prattle on a bit

oh and if you look outside conventional medicine you will see that vitamin C aids in the recovery of many conditions. its true only so much can be absorbed but i dont think anyone knows quite how much that is and the body seems to be able to take in more in a shorter time than the digestive system can handle on its own.
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Surely, he's joking...
it's tongue in cheek sure. but funny jokes mostly are true.
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New Anti-War Slogen

USE PORTICO FOR WORLD PEACE

Maybe he's on to something. Maybe his 10XX series modules from the 80XX Series desks had some of this Mojo as well. They followed his Germanium transistor modules that were noisy and grungey that were made from 1961 until around 1968, dates that are significant Vietnam War dates, our first casulties in 61 and the God awful TET Offensive in early 68. These modules are known to put out some pretty BadAss Mojo and may affect your brain and others brains in a powerful and negitive way if your music goes triple Platinum.
But the Anti-War movement started getting legs in the late 60's which is coincidentally when the 80XX Series desks filled with 1073's, 1066's and peaking with the 4 band eqs that were very complex with multiudes of eq possibilities such as the 1081's, 1099's and the 31105's from the 8078 range of consoles started to rule our music production and in 1975 the war was finally over. Brain wave Mojo you think?
Unfortunely Neve changed colors of the modules in 1976 to the extra dark sea grey and started the change over to the class AB modules, still some good modules but missing that Mojo which may have led to the Iranian take over of our Embassy in 1979 and then the election of the War Mongering Ronald Reagan and all that implies, deals with Sadam Hussain in his war with Iran and then arming Iran at the same time with the Iran-Contra debacle, arming the radical Arabs in Afghanistan which later turned out to be Al-Qaeda. Nothing new thats worth a crap from Neve since those glory days so now its up to Portico to save the day.
If Rupert Neve is right in his theory and this short description of the wars I have just touched on and that we've had a hand in and the time line of the Rupert Neve release of products that are right along the same time lines where his "good" gear has been available makes any sense at all I say we start the next anti-war slogen and end this war in the Middle East. USE PORTICO FOR WORLD PEACE

Thank you for your time, regards ,,deda,,
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