25th June 2004
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
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Thread Starter | Analog effects processors?
Hi there,
Anyone know of some good analog reverbs, delays, etc..? I'm trying to put together a rack of all analog gear...seems like most effects processors have gone digital.
Thanks
Aaron
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25th June 2004
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#2 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago
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Most reverbs and delays are digital,they just have analog inputs. So make room in your rack for a plate, you'll need a large rack, a good spring reverb and a good tape delay(Echoplex,or Space Echo), good luck. Not trying to be a smart ass, just having some fun. |
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25th June 2004
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn
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| Re: Analog effects processors? |
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25th June 2004
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix
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| Re: Analog effects processors? Quote: Originally posted by Unbound Hi there,
Anyone know of some good analog reverbs, delays, etc..? I'm trying to put together a rack of all analog gear...seems like most effects processors have gone digital.
Thanks
Aaron |
A really big room always works........
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25th June 2004
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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...as does reamping in a bathroom, down a hallway, etc.
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26th June 2004
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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26th June 2004
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#8 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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I use 3 rooms
a BiAmp Spring verb
and an Ecoplate III with mods to quiet it down
not high end, but musical
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26th June 2004
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 298
Thread Starter |
Thanks for all the ideas guys (and girls, maybe...)! Actually the tracking room should be fairly big, it's a bedroom in an old farmhouse. It has nice tiny bathroom attached to it that might be perfect for vox, as well as a walk in closet. Anyone used any HIGH quality spring reverbs? I'm not really familiar with them, so I don't exactly know what to look for. Thanks for all the info threm! Thanks
Aaron
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26th June 2004
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#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn
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The Mutator is just sick... there are many, many more affordable gems out there though... don't limit your thinking to rack mount units.
I've never been a big fan of spring reverb units... artifical reverb is artificial reverb; I prefer the transparency of high quality DSP or convolution.
Analog delays... never heard one that blew my mind.
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27th June 2004
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#11 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 12,504
| Quote: Originally posted by cdog I've never been a big fan of spring reverb units... | Then you're not into electric guitar music of the 20th century?
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27th June 2004
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#12 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Froombosch
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Who forgot to mention the good ol'plates? Or the dimension D bucket brigade devices?
Harrie
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27th June 2004
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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| Quote: Originally posted by cdog Analog delays... never heard one that blew my mind. | Whaaaat?
People sure are different...
As always, I second Dr. Threm's devoted investigations.
He's working on a MOJO-pill, but I can't tell you more at
present time.
peace
ruudman
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27th June 2004
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#14 | | KMR Audio
Joined: Jan 2003 Location: London
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Don't forget about guitar effects... there are a lot of really nice old boxes out there. Rack mounting..? Just screw the base-plates onto a blanking panel and drill a few holes for cabling etc.
Also the Bob Moog pedals are cool (low pass filter, ring mod... the new Murf thing should be really interesting... haven't heard this one though).
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27th June 2004
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#15 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2003 Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 65
| Quote: Originally posted by Unbound Anyone used any HIGH quality spring reverbs? I'm not really familiar with them, so I don't exactly know what to look for. | AKG BX20E
Won't quite fit in a rack (it's about the size of a small fridge), but it rules hard.
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27th June 2004
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#16 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn
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| Quote: Originally posted by lucey Then you're not into electric guitar music of the 20th century? |
I've been playing guitar since I was 8 and anytime I play through an amp with spring reverb, I turn it off, unless I want to do a Link Ray cover... which has never happened. In my opinion spring reverb muddies the natural resonance of the guitar... not to mention the very inclusion of a spring reverb in an amp compromises the signal path.
But you knew that right Lucey?
And for mixing, I like spring reverbs even less. If I want a thick, colored, reflection, I'll just reamp and mic the signal in a hallway, stairway, bathroom etc... this gives me a much more natural resonance that doesn't go  ! on transients... and if I'm in a rush its convolution: http://www.knufinke.de/sir/index_en.html
DSP is a distant 3rd I use only for background instrumentation.
dfegad
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28th June 2004
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#17 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
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For most of the stuff I will be doing, a distance mic will probably be used for reverb, but I would like to have an old spring to kick around on....and maybe even an ugly dinosaur plate God forbid.
Aaron
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28th June 2004
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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Trouble is, the best guitar sound, with analog-fx and all,
is the one who doesn't fit in the mix. Or, the other way around:
Remove drums,bass and keys, and it will fit in the mix.
The sound you hear if you're a musician, playing by yourself
in moody nights, wall-to-wall of guitar..............
ruudman
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1st July 2004
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#19 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
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Since I'm not really a guitar player, could anyone suggest some really sweet sounding analog pedals? Reverb and delay pedals primarily...
Thanks
Aaron
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1st July 2004
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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Just out of curiosity...why are you so determined to find an analog processor?
-Duardo
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1st July 2004
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#21 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Froombosch
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ruudman Trouble is, the best guitar sound, with analog-fx and all,
is the one who doesn't fit in the mix. Or, the other way around:
Remove drums,bass and keys, and it will fit in the mix.
ruudman | Some analog devices can be used in the mix. I remember the subtle chorussing of the Dimension D. Shimmering
Or the reverb tank inside my old Twin full of tuby tone...
or....
Harrie
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2nd July 2004
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#22 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York City
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| Quote: Originally posted by Froombosch I remember the subtle chorussing of the Dimension D.
Harrie | Works super on bass.
On male vocals also.
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2nd July 2004
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#23 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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| Quote: Originally posted by Unbound Since I'm not really a guitar player, could anyone suggest some really sweet sounding analog pedals? Reverb and delay pedals primarily...
Thanks
Aaron | memory man
holy grail
line 6 delay - only if you tweak it - tone killer to some extent
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2nd July 2004
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#24 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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| Quote: Originally posted by thethrillfactor Works super on bass.
On male vocals also. | That's what everybody tell me, I think I'll try to get one.
The rack edition?
ruudman
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2nd July 2004
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#25 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York City
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ruudman That's what everybody tell me, I think I'll try to get one.
The rack edition?
ruudman | It works pretty well on these sources, but not all the time.
There are only 2 combo's of buttons that i like(really only one).
What do you mean by rack edition? |
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2nd July 2004
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#26 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 298
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Duardo,
I'd like to get an all analog rack going so that if someone wants to throw down on the ol' studer two inch, there won't be so many conversions in the path. The entire path stays analog. You could do this with digital too. I'm kind of a believer in conversions killing your signal after a while...there is going to be some loss...think about how many conversions you're really making...it's scary...
Aaron
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2nd July 2004
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#27 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2002 Location: MIAMI FLA
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Bx20 rocks...looks good too.MasterRoom cool as well..find an old EMT120/240...maybe an Echoplate....and my fave wierdness...the Cooper Time Cube...a hose with mic/transducer folded into a box!!
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2nd July 2004
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#28 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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| Quote: Originally posted by thethrillfactor It works pretty well on these sources, but not all the time.
There are only 2 combo's of buttons that i like(really only one).
What do you mean by rack edition? | Roland SDD-320 Dimension D:
ruudman
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2nd July 2004
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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Oops ,soory.
Thought the stomp version was also named "D",
but that's Dimension C.....
ruudman
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2nd July 2004
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#30 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York City
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ruudman Roland SDD-320 Dimension D:
ruudman | The D is the only one i've ever used(and what i have).
I am not a guitar player so i wouldn't really come across the stomp box.
I know they added the Dimension patches on their digital box, but it doesn't sound the same.
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