Analog effects processors?
Old 25th June 2004
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Analog effects processors?

Hi there,
Anyone know of some good analog reverbs, delays, etc..? I'm trying to put together a rack of all analog gear...seems like most effects processors have gone digital.

Thanks
Aaron
Old 25th June 2004
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Most reverbs and delays are digital,they just have analog inputs. So make room in your rack for a plate, you'll need a large rack, a good spring reverb and a good tape delay(Echoplex,or Space Echo), good luck. Not trying to be a smart ass, just having some fun.
Old 25th June 2004
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Re: Analog effects processors?

Quote:
Originally posted by Unbound
...seems like most effects processors have gone digital.

Thanks
Aaron

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Old 25th June 2004
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Re: Analog effects processors?

Quote:
Originally posted by Unbound
Hi there,
Anyone know of some good analog reverbs, delays, etc..? I'm trying to put together a rack of all analog gear...seems like most effects processors have gone digital.

Thanks
Aaron

A really big room always works........
Old 25th June 2004
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...as does reamping in a bathroom, down a hallway, etc.
Old 26th June 2004
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All analog - all rack

Demeter RV-1 Real Reverb
http://www.demeteramps.com/
http://www.musictoyz.com/studio/rack/demverb.php

The Colorrack by Colorsound
http://www.musictoyz.com/studio/rack/colorrack.php

Vermona analog filters, phaser, ringmod etc.
http://www.vermona.com/en/frames.html

Analog Solutions modular units
http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/index2.htm

Sherman Filterbank
http://www.sherman.be/

Mutronics
http://www.musictoyz.com/studio/rack/mut.php

Hiwatt Tape Echo (with rack ears)
http://www.musictoyz.com/studio/rack/hiwatttape.php

Check ebay for older analog rack gear like Yamaha E1010 delay etc.
Or you could put some boutique analog pedals in gliding rack shelves as some people do.
You could ask about this here;
Monsterrack forum
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...php?forumid=35
or
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/board/
Old 26th June 2004
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Old 26th June 2004
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I use 3 rooms

a BiAmp Spring verb

and an Ecoplate III with mods to quiet it down


not high end, but musical
Old 26th June 2004
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Thanks for all the ideas guys (and girls, maybe...)! Actually the tracking room should be fairly big, it's a bedroom in an old farmhouse. It has nice tiny bathroom attached to it that might be perfect for vox, as well as a walk in closet. Anyone used any HIGH quality spring reverbs? I'm not really familiar with them, so I don't exactly know what to look for. Thanks for all the info threm! Thanks
Aaron
Old 26th June 2004
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The Mutator is just sick... there are many, many more affordable gems out there though... don't limit your thinking to rack mount units.

I've never been a big fan of spring reverb units... artifical reverb is artificial reverb; I prefer the transparency of high quality DSP or convolution.

Analog delays... never heard one that blew my mind.
Old 27th June 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by cdog
I've never been a big fan of spring reverb units...
Then you're not into electric guitar music of the 20th century?
Old 27th June 2004
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Who forgot to mention the good ol'plates? Or the dimension D bucket brigade devices?


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Old 27th June 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by cdog
Analog delays... never heard one that blew my mind.
Whaaaat?
People sure are different...

As always, I second Dr. Threm's devoted investigations.
He's working on a MOJO-pill, but I can't tell you more at
present time.

peace

ruudman
Old 27th June 2004
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Don't forget about guitar effects... there are a lot of really nice old boxes out there. Rack mounting..? Just screw the base-plates onto a blanking panel and drill a few holes for cabling etc.

Also the Bob Moog pedals are cool (low pass filter, ring mod... the new Murf thing should be really interesting... haven't heard this one though).
Old 27th June 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Unbound
Anyone used any HIGH quality spring reverbs? I'm not really familiar with them, so I don't exactly know what to look for.
AKG BX20E

Won't quite fit in a rack (it's about the size of a small fridge), but it rules hard.
Old 27th June 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by lucey
Then you're not into electric guitar music of the 20th century?


I've been playing guitar since I was 8 and anytime I play through an amp with spring reverb, I turn it off, unless I want to do a Link Ray cover... which has never happened. In my opinion spring reverb muddies the natural resonance of the guitar... not to mention the very inclusion of a spring reverb in an amp compromises the signal path.

But you knew that right Lucey?

And for mixing, I like spring reverbs even less. If I want a thick, colored, reflection, I'll just reamp and mic the signal in a hallway, stairway, bathroom etc... this gives me a much more natural resonance that doesn't go ! on transients... and if I'm in a rush its convolution: http://www.knufinke.de/sir/index_en.html

DSP is a distant 3rd I use only for background instrumentation.


dfegad
.......
Old 28th June 2004
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For most of the stuff I will be doing, a distance mic will probably be used for reverb, but I would like to have an old spring to kick around on....and maybe even an ugly dinosaur plate God forbid.

Aaron
Old 28th June 2004
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Trouble is, the best guitar sound, with analog-fx and all,
is the one who doesn't fit in the mix. Or, the other way around:
Remove drums,bass and keys, and it will fit in the mix.

The sound you hear if you're a musician, playing by yourself
in moody nights, wall-to-wall of guitar..............


ruudman
Old 1st July 2004
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Since I'm not really a guitar player, could anyone suggest some really sweet sounding analog pedals? Reverb and delay pedals primarily...

Thanks
Aaron
Old 1st July 2004
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Just out of curiosity...why are you so determined to find an analog processor?

-Duardo
Old 1st July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ruudman
Trouble is, the best guitar sound, with analog-fx and all,
is the one who doesn't fit in the mix. Or, the other way around:
Remove drums,bass and keys, and it will fit in the mix.

ruudman
Some analog devices can be used in the mix. I remember the subtle chorussing of the Dimension D. Shimmering
Or the reverb tank inside my old Twin full of tuby tone...
or....

Harrie
Old 2nd July 2004
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I remember the subtle chorussing of the Dimension D.
Harrie
Works super on bass.

On male vocals also.
Old 2nd July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Unbound
Since I'm not really a guitar player, could anyone suggest some really sweet sounding analog pedals? Reverb and delay pedals primarily...

Thanks
Aaron
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line 6 delay - only if you tweak it - tone killer to some extent
Old 2nd July 2004
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Quote:
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Works super on bass.

On male vocals also.
That's what everybody tell me, I think I'll try to get one.

The rack edition?


ruudman
Old 2nd July 2004
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That's what everybody tell me, I think I'll try to get one.

The rack edition?


ruudman
It works pretty well on these sources, but not all the time.

There are only 2 combo's of buttons that i like(really only one).

What do you mean by rack edition?
Old 2nd July 2004
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Duardo,

I'd like to get an all analog rack going so that if someone wants to throw down on the ol' studer two inch, there won't be so many conversions in the path. The entire path stays analog. You could do this with digital too. I'm kind of a believer in conversions killing your signal after a while...there is going to be some loss...think about how many conversions you're really making...it's scary...

Aaron
Old 2nd July 2004
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Bx20 rocks...looks good too.MasterRoom cool as well..find an old EMT120/240...maybe an Echoplate....and my fave wierdness...the Cooper Time Cube...a hose with mic/transducer folded into a box!!
Old 2nd July 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by thethrillfactor
It works pretty well on these sources, but not all the time.

There are only 2 combo's of buttons that i like(really only one).

What do you mean by rack edition?
Roland SDD-320 Dimension D:


ruudman
Old 2nd July 2004
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Oops ,soory.

Thought the stomp version was also named "D",

but that's Dimension C.....


ruudman
Old 2nd July 2004
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Roland SDD-320 Dimension D:


ruudman
The D is the only one i've ever used(and what i have).

I am not a guitar player so i wouldn't really come across the stomp box.

I know they added the Dimension patches on their digital box, but it doesn't sound the same.
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