Chandler Mini Mixer or Neve 8816 for summing? - Page 2

IxtabStudios · 17th August 2008

Have a listen...

Summing Mixer Shootout

Kinda' to bad they're mp3's, but you can get a good feel...

somsto75 · 31st October 2008

Why does it sound like the Neve one was driven too hard some where in the chain? I hear bad distortion on the bass/transient heavy parts. Was this test done properly?

rrraaalllfff · 31st October 2008

yeah the test is like that. the neve sounds more saturated than the other files. too bad. but the test is still interesting. I liked the Inward Technologies box from that test.

What is the price of the Aurora console? It looks mighty sweet.

somsto75 · 31st October 2008

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Originally Posted by rrraaalllfff

yeah the test is like that. the neve sounds more saturated than the other files. too bad. but the test is still interesting. I liked the Inward Technologies box from that test.

What is the price of the Aurora console? It looks mighty sweet.

It doesn't sound like saturation though. It sounds like a solid state clip/overload. I duno, something doesnt seem right.

rrraaalllfff · 31st October 2008

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Originally Posted by somsto75

...I duno, something doesnt seem right.

yes, you are correct

somsto75 · 1st November 2008

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Originally Posted by rrraaalllfff

yes, you are correct

most importantly though I don't think "the wrong" is the neve here

rrraaalllfff · 1st November 2008

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Originally Posted by somsto75

most importantly though I don't think "the wrong" is the neve here

exactamente
A nice test, but the neve shouldn't be considered since it's obviously different from the rest of the clips. Someone did something

But I'm glad somebody did a test with all those boxes.

somsto75 · 1st November 2008

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Originally Posted by rrraaalllfff

exactamente
A nice test, but the neve shouldn't be considered since it's obviously different from the rest of the clips. Someone did something

But I'm glad somebody did a test with all those boxes.

dont get me wrong, totally cool idea. Just wish they didnt mess with the neve.

There's a nevespiracy

DanRock101 · 10th January 2009

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Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

I'm going to make things a little harder for you, even though I haven't heard the Neve or the Chandler ... the only reason I *haven't* heard them is because I stopped looking once I heard the Nicerizer 16. Look into one. You'll cry. In a good way.

Hmmmmmm.........

spektor · 11th January 2009

Vote for the mixdream love it love that i can stick any analog on the mixchain with a flip of a switch love it

tamasdragon · 11th January 2009

The neve has two transformers, so if you don't use the insert function, you can achieve the same result with a 1073dpa. Even with pads, with the 1073dpa you've got more transformers in the path.
TD

Marjan · 11th January 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamasdragon

The neve has two transformers, so if you don't use the insert function, you can achieve the same result with a 1073dpa. Even with pads, with the 1073dpa you've got more transformers in the path.
TD

Yeah, that's a good point, but it's not that simple.
People may insert outboard with transformers in each of the 16 channels between the DAW and the summing box.

FadersmakmeHappy · 12th January 2009

I like to sum through my vintage radio shack mini mixer. It just has that lo-fi magic! dfegad ...HI FI!

work2do · 3rd March 2009

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Originally Posted by skybluerental

you should seriously check out a Phoenix Audio Nicerizer 16.
sonically, its the real deal for sure.

Where can you find a new nicerizer 16 nowadays?

**sniperschool** · 3rd March 2009

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Where can you find a new nicerizer 16 nowadays?

right here!
S/.

IxtabStudios · 3rd March 2009

How old is this thread?

The OP must have already mixed a dozen albums on whatever he ended up with...

Anyways, after having tried most of these for myself, the VK shootout seems less realistic than I would have liked to assume...

work2do · 27th December 2009

revisit. did the OP get a summer?

tapehiss · 27th December 2009

vintage king now carries the rascal audio analogue tonebuss, which is reminiscent of a neve sound.

but i'm waiting for the chandler minimixer II which will supposedly have 4 stereo busses and faders.
- the chandler with those features is basically my dream box. ( my other dream box doesn't have electronics in it)

**TonyBelmont** · 27th December 2009

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Originally Posted by konkaos

revisit. did the OP get a summer?

I believe computa left GS or started a new account.... computa, if you see this, please drop me an email.

Clairaudience · 27th December 2009

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Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I believe computa left GS or started a new account.... computa, if you see this, please drop me an email.

"Computers says no..."

malgfunk · 28th December 2009

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Originally Posted by Plush

I've used both and, believe it or not, it's NEVE all the way.
8816 lets you dial in your sound, Chandler just IS a sound.

The width control on the 8816 is major and the transformer sound on the NEVE is real.

+1

work2do · 28th December 2009

In my experience some of these boxes, just like consoles, work better for different types of genres. I work mostly in the hip hop-pop-r&b arenas. The Neve and the Chandler did not work for us when we tried them. The SPL seemed cool, the Equinox was nice, The Dangerous was ok. The ITB mixes stood up tall and the boxes didn't seem like they were worth the extra effort at the time.

yona677 · 19th August 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plush

I've used both and, believe it or not, it's NEVE all the way.
8816 lets you dial in your sound, Chandler just IS a sound.

The width control on the 8816 is major and the transformer sound on the NEVE is real.

ARE THE WIDTH CONTROL IS GOOD OR BAD FOR PROFESSIONAL MIX?

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/images/smilies/puh.gif

rectifried · 19th August 2010

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Originally Posted by sniperschool

Quote:
Where can you find a new nicerizer 16 nowadays?

right here!
S/.

Same here
great box

Foodogsoup · 21st November 2011

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Originally Posted by Geoff_T

Hi

It's a shame you jumped to that conclusion... we are production engineering the GTM so that we can shorten assembly time and provide faster deliveries. I'm redesigning several of the circuit boards to make them more "plug in-able" like the channels. Nothing flakey about it and we've just spent over $7,000 on assembly tooling.

It's a very labour intensive beastie to build... there are over 50 printed circuit boards in that box!

This unit is pure genious. I looked at the spec's its everything a real DAW mix fella needs and more. I hope its still available I'm going to buy as much as I can afford. I'll find out tommorow how much the bank will lend me yet again... LOL...

Thanks for this. I imagine I'm going to be buying at the right time too. seems to have been in development and the makers were not selling things they could make better. Great work! I can hear and feel the sound just by reviewing the spek. I hope its affordable.. not more than a chandler. we'll see tommorow. LOL

17th August 2008	#31
IxtabStudios Gear nut Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Tours, France Posts: 122	Have a listen... Summing Mixer Shootout Kinda' to bad they're mp3's, but you can get a good feel... __________________ www.ixtab.fr - Studio Pro Tools en plein coeur de Tours. Enregistrement, répétition, post-production.

31st October 2008	#32
somsto75 Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2006 Location: oimpit suburbia Posts: 264	listening test Why does it sound like the Neve one was driven too hard some where in the chain? I hear bad distortion on the bass/transient heavy parts. Was this test done properly?

31st October 2008	#33
rrraaalllfff Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 316	yeah the test is like that. the neve sounds more saturated than the other files. too bad. but the test is still interesting. I liked the Inward Technologies box from that test. What is the price of the Aurora console? It looks mighty sweet. __________________ Ralf Es ist nicht kaputt, es klingt nur so.

11th January 2009	#41
tamasdragon Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,489	The neve has two transformers, so if you don't use the insert function, you can achieve the same result with a 1073dpa. Even with pads, with the 1073dpa you've got more transformers in the path. TD __________________ tamasdragon.com

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11th January 2009	#40
spektor Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 803	Vote for the mixdream love it love that i can stick any analog on the mixchain with a flip of a switch love it

12th January 2009	#43
FadersmakmeHappy Gear addict Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 436	I like to sum through my vintage radio shack mini mixer. It just has that lo-fi magic! dfegad ...HI FI!

3rd March 2009	#45
sniperschool Moderator Joined: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,686	Quote: Where can you find a new nicerizer 16 nowadays? right here! S/.

27th December 2009	#47
work2do Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,705	revisit. did the OP get a summer?

27th December 2009	#48
tapehiss Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 1,909 2 Reviews written	vintage king now carries the rascal audio analogue tonebuss, which is reminiscent of a neve sound. but i'm waiting for the chandler minimixer II which will supposedly have 4 stereo busses and faders. - the chandler with those features is basically my dream box. ( my other dream box doesn't have electronics in it)

28th December 2009	#52
work2do Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,705	In my experience some of these boxes, just like consoles, work better for different types of genres. I work mostly in the hip hop-pop-r&b arenas. The Neve and the Chandler did not work for us when we tried them. The SPL seemed cool, the Equinox was nice, The Dangerous was ok. The ITB mixes stood up tall and the boxes didn't seem like they were worth the extra effort at the time.

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