17th December 2007
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Does anyone know of a stand alone HPF?
Does anyone make a nice sounding 3rd order selectable frequency high pass filter in either 500 series or rackmount preferably with a LPF too?
Thanks in advance
Steve
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#2 | | Gear maniac
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there are vintage german modules....neumann, bfe, lawo etc....
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#3 | | Gear nut
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check out the old ones from Siemens and Telefunken (W293/294 or W393 /394). Or the passive ones from Eckmiller (HS10 / TS10). Great stuff and cheap!
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mono-Peter check out the old ones from Siemens and Telefunken (W293/294 or W393 /394). Or the passive ones from Eckmiller (HS10 / TS10). Great stuff and cheap! | Cheers!
Did a search for Eckmiller and can't find anything. Do you know the web address? Who's doing them in the UK?
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17th December 2007
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#5 | | Gear nut
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Hi steve, this is all vintage gear. Eckmiller does not exist any more. But you can get the modules relativly cheap on German Ebay. Do a Google research, I prefer the Siemens filters, as they do a great job and give a certain colour to the sound, I like it for electronic music, synth stuf etc...
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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I looked for that for a while too. Not much luck. Although one production EQ designer did send me specs for a standalone variable HPF that I could wire up myself, I never did it. Went with a Weiss EQ1 instead, since I needed the rest of the functions anyway.
About the most convenient and cost-effective analog approach I found was to buy a used Klark Teknik DN410. Very nice, clean equalizer for cutting if desired, but all bands are individually defeatable and the unit can be used only for the variable HPF and LPF. 2nd order, but works very well and doesn't jack with the tone just from being in circuit. $400-600 or so, reliable, lots of them in the field.
Steve
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#7 | | member no 666
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Don't know the slope of the filters but I've found the API 215L's to work very nicely for my applications... they're 200 series frame size but personally I like the pre's in the 200 series as much as the 500 series pre's and the 225 compressor a hell of a lot more than the 525 compressor so over time, as you fill up the frame... you should be able to warrant the expense of that frame.
Peace.
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher Don't know the slope of the filters but I've found the API 215L's to work very nicely for my applications... they're 200 series frame size but personally I like the pre's in the 200 series as much as the 500 series pre's and the 225 compressor a hell of a lot more than the 525 compressor so over time, as you fill up the frame... you should be able to warrant the expense of that frame.
Peace. | Yeah cheers Fletch, I had looked at those but two things put me off. 1st having to buy yet another rack format and the slope is only a second order 12dB/OCT. I prefer the steeper 18dB slope on the low end. The filters on my Massive Passive are wonderful but thats being used on other things.
I've just noticed that the SSL X-Rack mic pre module has the Filters I need and the line input can be used on mixdown so I might try a couple of those.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by stevetgn I've just noticed that the SSL X-Rack mic pre module has the Filters I need and the line input can be used on mixdown so I might try a couple of those. | Might ask them if the HPF is active in line mode. I have some preamp/EQ units where the filter only applies to the mic pre input.
Steve
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Shiny Box has plans to release both a 500 series LP/HP filter module and then an 8-channel 1RU version a little later next year. I'm not sure on the slope though. You should contact Jon at Shiny Box.
Brad
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad McGowan Shiny Box has plans to release both a 500 series LP/HP filter module and then an 8-channel 1RU version a little later next year. I'm not sure on the slope though. You should contact Jon at Shiny Box.
Brad | mmm interesting, thanks!
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by squeegybug Might ask them if the HPF is active in line mode. I have some preamp/EQ units where the filter only applies to the mic pre input.
Steve | I'm fairly sure they are. No good to me if not! Jim are ya out there?
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18th December 2007
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#13 | | Solid State Logic
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Yup - you can use them on the line inputs.
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Originally Posted by Jim@SSL Yup - you can use them on the line inputs. | Cool, looks like Santa will be bringing me a couple of SuperAnalogue Prez |
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Jim, just to clarify.
The line in on the mic pre could also be used like the 4 way Line Return modules (albeit only one input) by pressing the Rec buss buttons and then summing Rec buss to the mix buss on the master module and therefore giving you extra X-Rack inputs on mix down, yes? Does that make sense?
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18th December 2007
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#16 | | Head of Bumping Security (B.S)
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Originally Posted by Brad McGowan Shiny Box has plans to release both a 500 series LP/HP filter module and then an 8-channel 1RU version a little later next year. I'm not sure on the slope though. You should contact Jon at Shiny Box.
Brad | Yes interesting indeed. I believe I posted this idea at least a year ago. I requested an 8-channel high/low pass filter box, analog. Looks like somebody was reading that thread, which I can't remember at all right now. I don't recall if I also suggested the 500-frame modules, but I definitely remember posting the 8-channel idea.
I suppose somebody else could have thought of it on their own, as I do not have a monopoly on ideas.
Anyway, whether I get credit for the concept or not, good going Shiny Box. I'll have to check those out when they're available.
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