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Old 4th December 2007   #1
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Toft Thread To Discuss Toft Threads

There are Sooooooooo Many Toft threads lately that I thought it was only a matter of time before a complete Toft subculture would emerge.

So this is the place to discuss everything Toft. Meet single people in your area that share similar Toft likes and dislikes. Share your Toft stories including your funniest Toft moments. Network with fellow Toft users or just sit back and bask in the Toftness.




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But really, which Neve clone would go best with the Toft?
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but is a Toft ATB better than an Allen & Heath!!!!!!
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I have never heard, used or owned a Toft, but from what I've been reading on these forums it's really a long way from Neve in sound quality.
Muddier, less transparent, not as musical and lacking that Neve oomph. Also the build quality is nowhere near even the cheapest neve clones out there.
I don't own or have ever used any Neve gear either, but from what other people on the board's been saying it's really obvious what tNeve units are like.
All Neve's have tubes and the Toft is really only solid state. Everyone knows that not a single great track has ever been recorded with solid state logic gear - ever.
Logic Studio on the other hand, is really new and has plenty more features than before, that right there is evidence that it's better.
Only wish it'd have elastic audio, but it doesn't. That's really a showstopper for me.
Real tube gear like ruperts new portico range is really deep and musical though. The Toft can't touch that.

Not even Eve-Anna is as manly as rupert if you ask me, he's got some reall brass ones.
Rupert is the one to call if you wan't your drums to go BOOM. That BOOM is really importan't - ask any expert and he'll tell you that.
That's why ToneLux gear isn't really daking off, it's like comparing a roadster to a rupert sidecar really.
With all that said, don't count out the Toft, unless toftcourse you really, really don't know what youre doing. It's all about the engineer and not the gear you know. Really cheap ass stuff can sound great with a good engineer, just remember the blackface adats.
The converters are really really important cause you don't want latency, this is one of those times where faster really is better. Gop 194 KHz if your graphics card can handle it.
But the most important is the song. If the song sucks, then even JJ Puig won't be able to service you.
The song won't come to life, however, if the performer isn't at his/hers best. All the gear in the world won't help.
This is where the Neve stuff shines, cause nothing can instill confidence in an artist such as a shiny, purple badge, vintage, neve unit.

nuff said.

Now I'm gonna pop open a can of Toft Lager, that really is the shit when you need to get a session going.

Last edited by K Bartos; 4th December 2007 at 05:46 PM.. Reason: Had to change a tube on a neve unit, it was creating distortion.
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my day just got worse...
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Toft??? - is this a new plugin, or perhaps a softsampler?

Now go dfegad on the
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I have never heard, used or owned a Toft, but from what I've been reading on these forums it's really a long way from Neve in sound quality.
Muddier, less transparent, not as musical and lacking that Neve oomph. Also the build quality is nowhere near even the cheapest neve clones out there.
I don't own or have ever used any Neve gear either, but from what other people on the board's been saying it's really obvious what tNeve units are like.
All Neve's have tubes and the Toft is really only solid state. Everyone knows that not a single great track has ever been recorded with solid state logic gear - ever.
Logic Studio on the other hand, is really new and has plenty more features than before, that right there is evidence that it's better.
Only wish it'd have elastic audio, but it doesn't. That's really a showstopper for me.
Real tube gear like ruperts new portico range is really deep and musical though. The Toft can't touch that.

Not even Eve-Anna is as manly as rupert if you ask me, he's got some reall brass ones.
Rupert is the one to call if you wan't your drums to go BOOM. That BOOM is really importan't - ask any expert and he'll tell you that.
That's why ToneLux gear isn't really daking off, it's like comparing a roadster to a rupert sidecar really.
With all that said, don't count out the Toft, unless toftcourse you really, really don't know what youre doing. It's all about the engineer and not the gear you know. Really cheap ass stuff can sound great with a good engineer, just remember the blackface adats.
The converters are really really important cause you don't want latency, this is one of those times where faster really is better. Gop 194 KHz if your graphics card can handle it.
But the most important is the song. If the song sucks, then even JJ Puig won't be able to service you.
The song won't come to life, however, if the performer isn't at his/hers best. All the gear in the world won't help.
This is where the Neve stuff shines, cause nothing can instill confidence in an artist such as a shiny, purple badge, vintage, neve unit.

nuff said.

Now I'm gonna pop open a can of Toft Lager, that really is the shit when you need to get a session going.

Tube?....tutt



replace the word Tube in this for Transformer
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I have never heard, used or owned a Toft, but from what I've been reading on these forums it's really a long way from Neve in sound quality.
Muddier, less transparent, not as musical and lacking that Neve oomph. Also the build quality is nowhere near even the cheapest neve clones out there.
I don't own or have ever used any Neve gear either, but from what other people on the board's been saying it's really obvious what tNeve units are like.
All Neve's have tubes and the Toft is really only solid state. Everyone knows that not a single great track has ever been recorded with solid state logic gear - ever.
Logic Studio on the other hand, is really new and has plenty more features than before, that right there is evidence that it's better.
Only wish it'd have elastic audio, but it doesn't. That's really a showstopper for me.
Real tube gear like ruperts new portico range is really deep and musical though. The Toft can't touch that.

Not even Eve-Anna is as manly as rupert if you ask me, he's got some reall brass ones.
Rupert is the one to call if you wan't your drums to go BOOM. That BOOM is really importan't - ask any expert and he'll tell you that.
That's why ToneLux gear isn't really daking off, it's like comparing a roadster to a rupert sidecar really.
With all that said, don't count out the Toft, unless toftcourse you really, really don't know what youre doing. It's all about the engineer and not the gear you know. Really cheap ass stuff can sound great with a good engineer, just remember the blackface adats.
The converters are really really important cause you don't want latency, this is one of those times where faster really is better. Gop 194 KHz if your graphics card can handle it.
But the most important is the song. If the song sucks, then even JJ Puig won't be able to service you.
The song won't come to life, however, if the performer isn't at his/hers best. All the gear in the world won't help.
This is where the Neve stuff shines, cause nothing can instill confidence in an artist such as a shiny, purple badge, vintage, neve unit.

nuff said.

Now I'm gonna pop open a can of Toft Lager, that really is the shit when you need to get a session going.
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Now go dfegad on the
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replace the word Tube in this for Transformer
prehaps you should check out the meaning of the word "irony"
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prehaps you should check out the meaning of the word "irony"
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Hi! I have a home studio.

Should I invest my time in reading this Toft thread, or would my time be better spent reading about Neve or API? I don't want to make a mistake that I'll regret a few years down the line.
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I was thinking of starting a thread to talk about this thread.

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Y'all say what you want, but all my mixes sound a lot tofter since I got my ATB...

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So this is the place to discuss everything Toft. Meet single people in your area that share similar Toft likes and dislikes. Share your Toft stories including your funniest Toft moments. Network with fellow Toft users or just sit back and bask in the Toftness.
Hi I'm Dave. I enjoy quiet evenings by the fire with that special someone, long walks on the beach, and boosting the upper mids on the analog synths a couple of dB while rolling off the HF on the reverb returns. Pix of my Toft are available.
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I have never heard, used or owned a Toft, but from what I've been reading on these forums it's really a long way from Neve in sound quality.
Muddier, less transparent, not as musical and lacking that Neve oomph. Also the build quality is nowhere near even the cheapest neve clones out there.
I don't own or have ever used any Neve gear either, but from what other people on the board's been saying it's really obvious what tNeve units are like.
All Neve's have tubes and the Toft is really only solid state. Everyone knows that not a single great track has ever been recorded with solid state logic gear - ever.
Logic Studio on the other hand, is really new and has plenty more features than before, that right there is evidence that it's better.
Only wish it'd have elastic audio, but it doesn't. That's really a showstopper for me.
Real tube gear like ruperts new portico range is really deep and musical though. The Toft can't touch that.

Not even Eve-Anna is as manly as rupert if you ask me, he's got some reall brass ones.
Rupert is the one to call if you wan't your drums to go BOOM. That BOOM is really importan't - ask any expert and he'll tell you that.
That's why ToneLux gear isn't really daking off, it's like comparing a roadster to a rupert sidecar really.
With all that said, don't count out the Toft, unless toftcourse you really, really don't know what youre doing. It's all about the engineer and not the gear you know. Really cheap ass stuff can sound great with a good engineer, just remember the blackface adats.
The converters are really really important cause you don't want latency, this is one of those times where faster really is better. Gop 194 KHz if your graphics card can handle it.
But the most important is the song. If the song sucks, then even JJ Puig won't be able to service you.
The song won't come to life, however, if the performer isn't at his/hers best. All the gear in the world won't help.
This is where the Neve stuff shines, cause nothing can instill confidence in an artist such as a shiny, purple badge, vintage, neve unit.

nuff said.

Now I'm gonna pop open a can of Toft Lager, that really is the shit when you need to get a session going.


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THIS is funny stuff.

i was going to continue to make records...but i have decided to open my own "comparison" studio. i plan on purchasing every piece of gear available...including a toft console...and just do shootouts all day. i have been wondering for years what to do with all the musicians i know who basically know 1 riff, or vocal line, or drum fill REALLY well. this would be perfect for them.

mondays will be mic shootout days. ribbons in the am, ldc in the afternoon, others in the evening.

tuesday will be neve clone day.

weds of course will be reserved for toft board comparisons only.

thursday we will mix it up a bit and compare and contrast pop screens, and aes cables.

friday will be a "casual" day where we simply compare something to something else...like say a neve 1073 to a 3 ft adat cable.

saturdays will be speaker shootout days..we will revisit all the comparisons and shootouts from the previous week..and determine which speakers best represent all the shootouts...and translate the best to the listener.

sunday will be self-performed labotomies....after we run the previous days "mixes" through various stereo mix bus compressors.

that should be fun.

now i just have to come up with the business plan for the new place.

i'm gonna call it..."there must be something better..studios"

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Y'all say what you want, but all my mixes sound a lot tofter since I got my ATB...

ok....THAT was REALLY funny.

"tofter" is definitely the new "warmer"

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POSTED BY MIXMAN:

"we simply compare something to something else...like say a neve 1073 to a 3 ft adat cable"

I just spit my coffe out all over my damn desk laughing so hard!!!
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So your going to use a console 10 times the price of the ATB as a gauge ?

Get real.

Is that you Oram dealer ?
Please, stop, that's OT.
Here we talk abouth threads, not consoles.
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THIS is funny stuff.

i was going to continue to make records...but i have decided to open my own "comparison" studio. i plan on purchasing every piece of gear available...including a toft console...and just do shootouts all day. i have been wondering for years what to do with all the musicians i know who basically know 1 riff, or vocal line, or drum fill REALLY well. this would be perfect for them.

mondays will be mic shootout days. ribbons in the am, ldc in the afternoon, others in the evening.

tuesday will be neve clone day.

weds of course will be reserved for toft board comparisons only.

thursday we will mix it up a bit and compare and contrast pop screens, and aes cables.

friday will be a "casual" day where we simply compare something to something else...like say a neve 1073 to a 3 ft adat cable.

saturdays will be speaker shootout days..we will revisit all the comparisons and shootouts from the previous week..and determine which speakers best represent all the shootouts...and translate the best to the listener.

sunday will be self-performed labotomies....after we run the previous days "mixes" through various stereo mix bus compressors.

that should be fun.

now i just have to come up with the business plan for the new place.

i'm gonna call it..."there must be something better..studios"

peace.
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This says it all:

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Just get a real neve and be done with it.
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I don't own or have ever used any Neve gear either, but from what other people on the board's been saying it's really obvious what tNeve units are like.

--snip happens--

That's why ToneLux gear isn't really daking off,
My absolute two favorite lines from what I would nominate as best post of 2007!!!!


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Just get a real neve and be done with it.
The true irony is that you're on post 1074 now... and your next post will be 1075. The one after that will be post 1076 and we'll have to do a comparison thread as to which post was better... your post #1073 or your post 1076!!!!!
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Of course it wasn't a true blind test, but... I really believe that post 1066 was the FATTEST by far.... Case closed.
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