Phoenix DRS-1 and Great River NV1?

pitchybastard · 14th May 2004

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone owns both and could give me a general overview of the differences/peculiarities.
I find it difficult to make up my mind since I haven't heard either one and based my selections on suggestions and documenting myself.

thanks in advance,

pitchy.

Exmun · 14th May 2004

You should at least go to www.thelisteningsessions.com as a start. Perhaps that will at least help give you a start.

brownmouse · 14th May 2004

i have both (actually i just traded my phoenix to a fellow gearslut), and both are great, just different textures. the phoenix seems a tad more open on the top to me and the great river more thick and solid. again, both are great... the great river is usually my first pick on kik drum and i generally reach for the phoenix first for vocals. i like both on electric guitars (they work together very nicely). chances are you wont go wrong with either.... and you'll end up with the other one later anyway :-)
good luck
joshua

pitchybastard · 14th May 2004

thanks a lot for the answers and the link

you were really helpful!.

pitchy

RKrizman · 14th May 2004

I have them both. The Phoenix is my first goto for vocals and acoustic instruments. It tames harsh mics and puts a nice beauty spin on source material without making you feel like you're coloring it up too much. Natural, round and woody sounding--never glassy, never cold, never strident. It's a little bit thick, yet translates detail well. I reach for the GR for electric guitar mics or direct Wurlitzer. You can crank in more bite, but it's still smooth enough to play nicely with others. To me the Phoenix is useful on more things, but other people will say that about the GR. In general I find myself adding hi eq more often to the Phoenix than the GR, but often find myself switching from the GR to the Phoenix because it's edgier than what I want.

In general, once I got the Phoenix, I stopped obsessing about preamps. After that, the GR was a nice addition. You'll do very well with either one.

And don't forget the John Hardys.

BTW, I assume you know Fletcher can set you up with all of these, no obligation.

-R

FOURTHTUNZ · 14th May 2004

I have the phoenix and it's one of my favorite pres.
You can run 4 mics at once with it too if ya want ta

I don't know if this breaks any laws or anything but could come in handy in a pinch?

daniel

kevinc · 14th May 2004

I`ve got the MP2 - Nv and it`s fantastic. That doesn`t answer your question worth a damn but at least you know both are really good.

You should ask Nathan or Fletcher about them as I think both of them carry both products and could tell you a lot about the way the pieces sound.

pitchybastard · 15th May 2004

thank you all for your help and suggestions.

After checking out "the listening sessions" homepage, i ordered a phoenix.

Should be here early next week.

will post my impressions!

Take care.

14th May 2004	#1
pitchybastard Gear maniac Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 274 Thread Starter	Phoenix DRS-1 and Great River NV1? Hello all, I was wondering if anyone owns both and could give me a general overview of the differences/peculiarities. I find it difficult to make up my mind since I haven't heard either one and based my selections on suggestions and documenting myself. thanks in advance, pitchy.

14th May 2004	#7
kevinc Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Beantown Posts: 2,462	I`ve got the MP2 - Nv and it`s fantastic. That doesn`t answer your question worth a damn but at least you know both are really good. You should ask Nathan or Fletcher about them as I think both of them carry both products and could tell you a lot about the way the pieces sound. __________________ - Kev

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14th May 2004	#2
Exmun Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 613	You should at least go to www.thelisteningsessions.com as a start. Perhaps that will at least help give you a start.

14th May 2004	#3
brownmouse Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,399	i have both (actually i just traded my phoenix to a fellow gearslut), and both are great, just different textures. the phoenix seems a tad more open on the top to me and the great river more thick and solid. again, both are great... the great river is usually my first pick on kik drum and i generally reach for the phoenix first for vocals. i like both on electric guitars (they work together very nicely). chances are you wont go wrong with either.... and you'll end up with the other one later anyway :-) good luck joshua

14th May 2004	#5
RKrizman Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 6,598	I have them both. The Phoenix is my first goto for vocals and acoustic instruments. It tames harsh mics and puts a nice beauty spin on source material without making you feel like you're coloring it up too much. Natural, round and woody sounding--never glassy, never cold, never strident. It's a little bit thick, yet translates detail well. I reach for the GR for electric guitar mics or direct Wurlitzer. You can crank in more bite, but it's still smooth enough to play nicely with others. To me the Phoenix is useful on more things, but other people will say that about the GR. In general I find myself adding hi eq more often to the Phoenix than the GR, but often find myself switching from the GR to the Phoenix because it's edgier than what I want. In general, once I got the Phoenix, I stopped obsessing about preamps. After that, the GR was a nice addition. You'll do very well with either one. And don't forget the John Hardys. BTW, I assume you know Fletcher can set you up with all of these, no obligation. -R

14th May 2004	#6
FOURTHTUNZ Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2002 Location: MAINE Posts: 786	I have the phoenix and it's one of my favorite pres. You can run 4 mics at once with it too if ya want ta I don't know if this breaks any laws or anything but could come in handy in a pinch? daniel

15th May 2004	#8
pitchybastard Gear maniac Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 274 Thread Starter	thank you all for your help and suggestions. After checking out "the listening sessions" homepage, i ordered a phoenix. Should be here early next week. will post my impressions! Take care.