SSL 6000 RGB to TV Convert?

[o0charlie0o]

I saw another post about this but it was never resolved. I just relocated my studio with an SSL 6000 series on a G Computer. I don't want to put the Sony CRT Monitor in the control room because it just doesn't look good. We instead got 2 42" TV's that will have video cameras inputs in them and the computer, stuff like that. I also want to have total recall on there but have not had any luck getting that to work.

I have tried a BNC to VGA cable into a computer monitor and the tv. I also put that in a Pal to Ntsc converter. The only thing that even sorta showed what it was supposed to was a simple composite cable on the green connector. This didn't sync correctly though.

I was told this system is an underscanning system with sync on green. Other than that I dont' know where to turn for the proper converter to get it to some kind of ntsc or normal vga signal. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to respond here or to my email: studio@dsrecordings.com

Thanks!

Charlie

[o0charlie0o]

If anyone is curious, the closest I got to resolving this was sticking a BNC to RGA on Green and sending it to the HDTV which was able to find the sinc and display the image in black and white (which is good enough for recalls and the SSL computer).

[nicpope]

but you won't get to see the beach in color!

[gonzoh1]

Try some sort of scan convertor.

There was a box by 'Analogway" called the Transcaler XT that would normally work. I think there are other alternatives but good luck looking

George

[o0charlie0o]

funny enough one of my engineers prefers it in black and white because it is easier to see in his opinion. less distractions!

[chuckluis]

Thanks for the heads up Charlie!

I was curious to know if its tough to see where the knobs are supposed to be when you are doing a recall (now that its black and white).

[Vito Janeiro]

I have the same situation, I´m using the green only at the moment with SSL 4056. I really miss the colors even though the total recall doesn´t get that much of a use...

I have been talking with this with a friend of mine and he´s taliing about scaler box to convert the RGB to VGA for example. I´ll report the results asap.

Wbr,

Vito

[anteupaudio]

Originally Posted by Vito Janeiro

I have the same situation, I´m using the green only at the moment with SSL 4056. I really miss the colors even though the total recall doesn´t get that much of a use...

I have been talking with this with a friend of mine and he´s taliing about scaler box to convert the RGB to VGA for example. I´ll report the results asap.

Wbr,

Vito

Hey..

I just recently went through this when we installed our SSL 4000. The SSL computer doesn't just spit out standard RGB. It's RGB PAL and the PAL part is what causes the trouble. There are boxes out there that will do the conversion but all of the converters I have found have been pretty expensive. There are boxes that will convert other types of PAL but RGB PAL appears to be pretty rare and, as a result, the work around is more expensive. We ended up just getting a small Panasonic CRT monitor for the time being. It's amazing on how little information there is on the net about this issue! It took us a couple of very frustrating days to figure out what the real issue was. Even our 42" plasma (that does RGB and has menu options for PAL) does NOT do RGB PAL. Very confusing....

Good luck!

[colinmiller]

I know Chalice Studios in LA has a plasma screen connected to an SSL Classic. I remember doing sessions there when they first set it up and they were having the same problems but got it working. You could maybe give them a call and ask them what they used/did.

[drtechno]

you need to find a converter used in the big screen video games, they take the RGB signal (composite sync on green) from the game and convert it to ntsc.
like this one: Video Converters - RGB to NTSC/PAL TV Converter PCB - JAMMABOARDS.COM - JAMMA Coin-Op Arcade Game Parts - CV-04 RGB to NTSC/PAL TV Converter PCB

[StudioKing]

I have got a box that converts the RGB signal to a standard SCART plug. I think this will be easier to get hold of then something that gives you a VGA output and there is probably a SCART input on your screens.
The quality is not as good obviously but still more then ok for that application.

[Vito Janeiro]

Thanks dude, I just ordered the converter, I´ll inform whats happening with that when it arrives...

Vito

[Vito Janeiro]

I got the converter but it doesn´t seem to be the sollution. I tried all the possible wiring options without major success...

Vito

[TapeOpAl]

I'm working at a different studio at the moment but the one I usually work at has two boxes - our SSL computer has a scart lead coming out of the inside instead of the BNCs on the front. Our tech did this mod, apparently it's just connected directly to the board that the BNCs are linked to but I'm not sure which connections are where on the scart connector. This then gets converted to S-VHS with one box then another box does S-VHS to (S?)VGA and goes to a small computer monitor on the meterbridge. We have a plasma that I'm just in the process of hooking up with a switcher to select that or the monitor, I just need to get the cable runs sorted.

I can find out about what the scart connects to and the makes and models of the converter boxes but you should probably just talk to a local (or national even, for this kind of job) tech and see what they recommend. They are installing or fixing these setups all the time.

[unitedreco]

I know this is old but just an update since there are many ssl's up for sale and people scratching their heads and looking for solutions. This is THE solution without spending serious dough the right working solution...Go on ebay and buy a Mutisync or Syncmaster Monitor or TV. Multisync is termed by NEC and Mitsubishi , Samsung uses the term Syncmaster. They are extremely cheap on ebay, we picked up a 46" nec for $360 shipped, used of course, years ago they used to be thousands. The problem is not just RGB it is also Pal , US is NTSC standard a regular tv or rgb monitor just wont work especially if you want the total recall feature to work. Even if you used the green line(sync on green) connected to standard composite in you will not get the whole picture as it should be , there will be wavyness in the screen and it will only show up black and white, it might also chop off the bottom of the screen so you wont see everything. Overseas they dont have the problem because they run PAL on their monitor systems....Any size Multisync will work on the ssl no need for scan conversion or anything trust me on this one.

[Erik Lutkins]

Originally Posted by unitedreco

I know this is old but just an update since there are many ssl's up for sale and people scratching their heads and looking for solutions. This is THE solution without spending serious dough the right working solution...Go on ebay and buy a Mutisync or Syncmaster Monitor or TV. Multisync is termed by NEC and Mitsubishi , Samsung uses the term Syncmaster. They are extremely cheap on ebay, we picked up a 46" nec for $360 shipped, used of course, years ago they used to be thousands. The problem is not just RGB it is also Pal , US is NTSC standard a regular tv or rgb monitor just wont work especially if you want the total recall feature to work. Even if you used the green line(sync on green) connected to standard composite in you will not get the whole picture as it should be , there will be wavyness in the screen and it will only show up black and white, it might also chop off the bottom of the screen so you wont see everything. Overseas they dont have the problem because they run PAL on their monitor systems....Any size Multisync will work on the ssl no need for scan conversion or anything trust me on this one.

Hi unitedreco
Does this work for sure? If so, I'd like to get all over this, as we don't really have a back-up monitor for our total recall. On the Syncmasters and Multisyncs on ebay,I see they only usually have VGA and/or DVI inputs. Do I need an RGB to VGA cable? And the monitor itself will deal with the sync issue? Sorry to be ignorant on the subject, but I'm not knowledgeable on the video sync issues with these SSL monitors.
Thanks!

[Skip Burrows]

This is a really well thought out box.


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[Rae Nimeh]

Rgb multisync monitor will have the bnc connectors on it just as on the ssl computer. Cheapest alternative imho over having a scan converter that may or may not work. The monitors are now available for way cheap used, just do make sure that who you buy from guarantees they are working. Many of the units you will find out there come from corporate entities that were leasing them, the lease company then takes them in checks them and sells them as outdated, i wouldnt call a 47" lcd or plasma screen that originally costs $4-5k dated especially if im connecting ssl comp to it as well as a multitude of other video options...for $300 bucks +- id call it a steal. Rae