New Analog Tape ...

lucey · 26th September 2007, 12:06 AM

... is here for good.

ATR Magnetics, LLC

How is it going with the RMGI, you users?

It's great to have both out there.

(Mix to analog folks ... I love it!)

themaidsroom · 26th September 2007, 01:30 AM

the RMG is better and better
they just need new boxes
the boxes are quite shitty
the tape is very quiet and
has a great hi end thing - hard
to describe....very different from
quantegy.

i have a reel of atr 1/2" - i have not tried
it yet....
i have used many reels of rmg 900 1/2".....
sounds great
i can't wait to hear the atr 2"
i just bought a second A827...

2 x 2" 16 track
2 x 2" 8 track
these are both very hi-fi options

thank god
for mike spitz

thank god for all the kids
who hear tape right now
and who are really
passionate
and really play
and sing - they
are the future of
music - there are some
tracking live to 2" 8 track
right now as i write this

be well

- jack

stellar · 26th September 2007, 03:23 AM

thicker tape??? great; I don't want to wear down my heads! Plus a tension recalibration??? come on... $90 for a 1/2" reel????

John Davis · 26th September 2007, 03:27 AM

I'm kinda bummed I can't mix to 1/4" with ATR tape... oh well.

John

yeloocproducer · 26th September 2007, 03:31 AM

So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.

themaidsroom · 26th September 2007, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeloocproducer

So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.

the rmg tape is two formulations that i am aware of
900 / 911

i think the atr tape will be available in 1/4" soon

89$ is steep for 1/2"
$289 is steep for 2"
but, it is supposed to be incredible tape, perhaps the best ever made

i have made a few records this summer with old ampex one pass tape,
and when tape is well made - it has a longer shelf life than many, many
things - it is truly durable, amazing that it can do what it does
10 or 12 years later

be well

- jack

lucey · 26th September 2007, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeloocproducer

So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.

It's not. It's new.

Tony Shepperd · 26th September 2007, 07:50 AM

Did I read that right?

$289 for a reel of tape?

OUCH!

dlmorley · 26th September 2007, 08:27 AM

no 1/4" ?

allencollins · 26th September 2007, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

Did I read that right?

$289 for a reel of tape?

OUCH!

it seems expensive but in the 80's 456 was $150 for a reel a les paul was $800. Now tape is $275 and Les pauls are $2000

I don't think thats bad at all considering inflation and the fact that there isn't
too much demand for tape these days

**Riccardo** · 26th September 2007, 01:41 PM

Loving SM 900. haven't tried 911 yet.
Great to hear about ATR finally shipping!

Long live analog!

drew · 26th September 2007, 01:45 PM

For those that think it's expensive, I say be glad you have it at all, stop bitchin!!!!!!

Apparently, making tape is a very nasty process environmentally and expensive and some one has to pay for that.

Fletcher · 26th September 2007, 02:03 PM

Let's not forget that the majority [not all, but the majority] of tape rolled has always been on "label" projects... the kind with "a budget" that can figure the cost of tape into that budget... it's only us guys who do "self budgeted" or "indie" recordings that will feel a bit of a sting from $289/roll... especially if you figure you'll need at least 4 rolls for an album if you're rolling at 30ips.

On the bright side... if you're rolling off the 2" into a digital storage medium then you'll only need 1 roll... and $289- for that kind of effect processor probably isn't all that expensive [if that's the effect you're looking to achieve].

Peace.

Paul Hammond · 26th September 2007, 03:00 PM

That is the best news I've heard in a while! Thank you for making my day!

Musiclab · 26th September 2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allencollins

it seems expensive but in the 80's 456 was $150 for a reel a les paul was $800. Now tape is $275 and Les pauls are $2000

I don't think thats bad at all considering inflation and the fact that there isn't
too much demand for tape these days

I dont know where you bought tape from, for me it was about 105 dollars. Before Quantegy closed the first time I was getting GP9 for 144 a reel, when they came back it was almost 200 and within a few months was close to 240. 289 is 300 at least with shipping , so if you use 4 reels of tape for an album that's 1200 versus 600 a little more than 2 years ago. Sadly in the last year I have not been able to convince one new client to go for a reel of tape. This has NEVER been the case. I'm glad ATR is finally online.

allencollins · 26th September 2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musiclab

I dont know where you bought tape from, for me it was about 105 dollars. Before Quantegy closed the first time I was getting GP9 for 144 a reel, when they came back it was almost 200 and within a few months was close to 240. 289 is 300 at least with shipping , so if you use 4 reels of tape for an album that's 1200 versus 600 a little more than 2 years ago. Sadly in the last year I have not been able to convince one new client to go for a reel of tape. This has NEVER been the case. I'm glad ATR is finally online.

ampex 456 was between 125 -150 back in the mid 80's
never used quantegy.

who cares Id pay 500 for 2in

vernier · 26th September 2007, 09:09 PM

I'm happy bout this and going to the pub to celebrate YES!!!

stevep · 26th September 2007, 09:14 PM

Sweet !

its about time, ..... im glad they finally got it going

.

Plush · 27th September 2007, 01:28 AM

It's great to have two suppliers of tape!

Only testing and usage will tell if ATR is able to match the superb sonics and useability of the mighty RMGI product.

RMGI 900 is incredible.

stevep · 27th September 2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

Why would anyone buy tape in this day and age? You guys are either stupid or crazy or both!

Without tape its kinda hard to use the tape machine

pianodano · 27th September 2007, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

See that's what makes me mad!

When someone can't even understand something so simple. Where did you go to school?

Let's see now. Steve has over 2700 posts here at Gearslutz and you have a grand total of 18. Did you come here just to teach all of us dumb people (your avatar) how to record ??

Empty Planet · 27th September 2007, 02:59 AM

Use the drop-down menu under his screen name and observe the nature of this "Blender" character's posts.

Clearly someone's idea of a pasttime.

Cheers.

pianodano · 27th September 2007, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

I'm not even going to respond. People on this forum keep being mean to me when all I want to do is talk about recording. I happen to love music. Is that a crime?

But you did respond. I'm not trying to be mean but it's kinda of a strange tack you are taking, insulting people, if you really want to talk about professional recording. And I will add that if you really LOVE music, you WILL learn to LOVE tape.

themaidsroom · 27th September 2007, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

Why would anyone buy tape in this day and age? You guys are either stupid or crazy or both!

you walked into "new analog tape"
and posted what you posted
it is your lucky day as i am both
stupid and crazy and
looking forward to buying some
new atr tape

blender, i would suggest you take a little bit more time
and demonstrate that you love music - i admire your
panache, but calling "your worst song better than the
beatles best song" on the other, beatles thread, is
somewhat provacative - to many people the beatles
were a pretty great band

if your assessment of your own talents is even remotely accurate, i would
suggest recording with magnetic tape - it sounds great

be well

- jack

pianodano · 27th September 2007, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

OK We have computers that do it for you.

They have a special forum for that. It's called low end. This one is called HIGH END.

pianodano · 27th September 2007, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

Thanks man you are the first person to be nice to me. This place is high stress.

Nah, Gearslutz is is cool.

pianodano · 27th September 2007, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pianodano

Nah, Gearslutz is is cool.

Anyway about the new tape. Does anyone know if all of it is on the old style 6 screw reels ?

Musiclab · 27th September 2007, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allencollins

ampex 456 was between 125 -150 back in the mid 80's
never used quantegy.

who cares Id pay 500 for 2in

Ampex was what became quantegy, and if you paid 125 -150 you paid at least 35 dollars a reel too much. BTW if you'd like I'll sell you some brand new GP9 for 495, and save ya five bucks!

DSMrehearsal · 27th September 2007, 03:16 AM

Blender is a fuc*ing ass wipe. I' m the fist person to give someone a chance, but this guyhas no idea what the fu*k he's talking about, as has been demonstrated on various threads on this site. I suggest he is ignored altogether until he comes up with something intelligent to say

stevep · 27th September 2007, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender

I'm not even going to respond. People on this forum keep being mean to me when all I want to do is talk about recording. I happen to love music. Is that a crime?

Blender
Join Date: 26th September 2007
PostsTotal Posts: 31 (31 posts per day)

31 posts in the first day ??

Welcome to GS

.

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lucey Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: the present Posts: 9,441	New Analog Tape ... ... is here for good. ATR Magnetics, LLC How is it going with the RMGI, you users? It's great to have both out there. (Mix to analog folks ... I love it!) __________________ Brian Lucey Magic Garden Mastering "beauty resists capture" "the economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the ecology" - unknown

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26th September 2007, 08:27 AM	#9
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26th September 2007, 01:41 PM	#11
Riccardo Mastering Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Always on the Run Posts: 1,425	Loving SM 900. haven't tried 911 yet. Great to hear about ATR finally shipping! Long live analog! __________________ Velvet Room Mastering "What quality level does it need to be? Personally, I work on mixes that range from marvellous to hideously diabolical.......I'd suggest you aim more towards the "marvellous" end of the scale!" - Darius van Helfteren -

26th September 2007, 01:30 AM	#2
themaidsroom Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 2,755	the RMG is better and better they just need new boxes the boxes are quite shitty the tape is very quiet and has a great hi end thing - hard to describe....very different from quantegy. i have a reel of atr 1/2" - i have not tried it yet.... i have used many reels of rmg 900 1/2"..... sounds great i can't wait to hear the atr 2" i just bought a second A827... 2 x 2" 16 track 2 x 2" 8 track these are both very hi-fi options thank god for mike spitz thank god for all the kids who hear tape right now and who are really passionate and really play and sing - they are the future of music - there are some tracking live to 2" 8 track right now as i write this be well - jack

26th September 2007, 03:23 AM	#3
stellar Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 583	thicker tape??? great; I don't want to wear down my heads! Plus a tension recalibration??? come on... $90 for a 1/2" reel????

26th September 2007, 03:27 AM	#4
John Davis Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: crooklyn Posts: 27	I'm kinda bummed I can't mix to 1/4" with ATR tape... oh well. John

26th September 2007, 03:31 AM	#5
yeloocproducer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 934	So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.

26th September 2007, 01:45 PM	#12
drew Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland,USA Posts: 2,250	For those that think it's expensive, I say be glad you have it at all, stop bitchin!!!!!! Apparently, making tape is a very nasty process environmentally and expensive and some one has to pay for that. __________________ Drew Mazurek Artist Direct Page Mixing ITB? Just because you're not good at it, doesn't mean it sucks.

26th September 2007, 02:03 PM	#13
Fletcher member no 666 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Foxboro, MA USA Posts: 5,778	Let's not forget that the majority [not all, but the majority] of tape rolled has always been on "label" projects... the kind with "a budget" that can figure the cost of tape into that budget... it's only us guys who do "self budgeted" or "indie" recordings that will feel a bit of a sting from $289/roll... especially if you figure you'll need at least 4 rolls for an album if you're rolling at 30ips. On the bright side... if you're rolling off the 2" into a digital storage medium then you'll only need 1 roll... and $289- for that kind of effect processor probably isn't all that expensive [if that's the effect you're looking to achieve]. Peace. __________________ Fletcher "I'm not really an asshole... I just play one on the internet" [author unknown] R/E/P the Recording Engineer and Producer forums Mercenary Audio the small drinking company with a large audio problem mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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