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Old 26th September 2007   #1
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New Analog Tape ...

... is here for good.

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How is it going with the RMGI, you users?






It's great to have both out there.

(Mix to analog folks ... I love it!)
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I talked to Mike at ATR today and he suggested checking out the new tape. Made in the good ol' USA. I'm so glad they made it happen.If their product is good, I will be giving them some business.
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the RMG is better and better
they just need new boxes
the boxes are quite shitty
the tape is very quiet and
has a great hi end thing - hard
to describe....very different from
quantegy.

i have a reel of atr 1/2" - i have not tried
it yet....
i have used many reels of rmg 900 1/2".....
sounds great
i can't wait to hear the atr 2"
i just bought a second A827...

2 x 2" 16 track
2 x 2" 8 track
these are both very hi-fi options


thank god
for mike spitz

thank god for all the kids
who hear tape right now
and who are really
passionate
and really play
and sing - they
are the future of
music - there are some
tracking live to 2" 8 track
right now as i write this


be well


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thicker tape??? great; I don't want to wear down my heads! Plus a tension recalibration??? come on... $90 for a 1/2" reel????
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I'm kinda bummed I can't mix to 1/4" with ATR tape... oh well.

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So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.
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So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.
the rmg tape is two formulations that i am aware of
900 / 911

i think the atr tape will be available in 1/4" soon

89$ is steep for 1/2"
$289 is steep for 2"
but, it is supposed to be incredible tape, perhaps the best ever made

i have made a few records this summer with old ampex one pass tape,
and when tape is well made - it has a longer shelf life than many, many
things - it is truly durable, amazing that it can do what it does
10 or 12 years later



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So if RMG is based on 911, is ATR an enhanced GP-9 type formula? Just wondering, I heard a rumor.
It's not. It's new.
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Did I read that right?

$289 for a reel of tape?

OUCH!
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no 1/4" ?
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Did I read that right?

$289 for a reel of tape?

OUCH!
it seems expensive but in the 80's 456 was $150 for a reel a les paul was $800. Now tape is $275 and Les pauls are $2000

I don't think thats bad at all considering inflation and the fact that there isn't
too much demand for tape these days
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Loving SM 900. haven't tried 911 yet.
Great to hear about ATR finally shipping!

Long live analog!
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For those that think it's expensive, I say be glad you have it at all, stop bitchin!!!!!!

Apparently, making tape is a very nasty process environmentally and expensive and some one has to pay for that.
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Let's not forget that the majority [not all, but the majority] of tape rolled has always been on "label" projects... the kind with "a budget" that can figure the cost of tape into that budget... it's only us guys who do "self budgeted" or "indie" recordings that will feel a bit of a sting from $289/roll... especially if you figure you'll need at least 4 rolls for an album if you're rolling at 30ips.

On the bright side... if you're rolling off the 2" into a digital storage medium then you'll only need 1 roll... and $289- for that kind of effect processor probably isn't all that expensive [if that's the effect you're looking to achieve].

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That is the best news I've heard in a while! Thank you for making my day!
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it seems expensive but in the 80's 456 was $150 for a reel a les paul was $800. Now tape is $275 and Les pauls are $2000

I don't think thats bad at all considering inflation and the fact that there isn't
too much demand for tape these days
I dont know where you bought tape from, for me it was about 105 dollars. Before Quantegy closed the first time I was getting GP9 for 144 a reel, when they came back it was almost 200 and within a few months was close to 240. 289 is 300 at least with shipping , so if you use 4 reels of tape for an album that's 1200 versus 600 a little more than 2 years ago. Sadly in the last year I have not been able to convince one new client to go for a reel of tape. This has NEVER been the case. I'm glad ATR is finally online.
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I dont know where you bought tape from, for me it was about 105 dollars. Before Quantegy closed the first time I was getting GP9 for 144 a reel, when they came back it was almost 200 and within a few months was close to 240. 289 is 300 at least with shipping , so if you use 4 reels of tape for an album that's 1200 versus 600 a little more than 2 years ago. Sadly in the last year I have not been able to convince one new client to go for a reel of tape. This has NEVER been the case. I'm glad ATR is finally online.
ampex 456 was between 125 -150 back in the mid 80's
never used quantegy.

who cares Id pay 500 for 2in
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I'm happy bout this and going to the pub to celebrate YES!!!
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I'm happy bout this and going to the pub to celebrate YES!!!


Ohhhhhhh Happy Day
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Sweet !

its about time, ..... im glad they finally got it going




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It's great to have two suppliers of tape!

Only testing and usage will tell if ATR is able to match the superb sonics and useability of the mighty RMGI product.

RMGI 900 is incredible.
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Why would anyone buy tape in this day and age? You guys are either stupid or crazy or both!
Without tape its kinda hard to use the tape machine




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See that's what makes me mad! When someone can't even understand something so simple. Where did you go to school?
Let's see now. Steve has over 2700 posts here at Gearslutz and you have a grand total of 18. Did you come here just to teach all of us dumb people (your avatar) how to record ??
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Use the drop-down menu under his screen name and observe the nature of this "Blender" character's posts.

Clearly someone's idea of a pasttime.






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I'm not even going to respond. People on this forum keep being mean to me when all I want to do is talk about recording. I happen to love music. Is that a crime?
But you did respond. I'm not trying to be mean but it's kinda of a strange tack you are taking, insulting people, if you really want to talk about professional recording. And I will add that if you really LOVE music, you WILL learn to LOVE tape.
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Why would anyone buy tape in this day and age? You guys are either stupid or crazy or both!
you walked into "new analog tape"
and posted what you posted
it is your lucky day as i am both
stupid and crazy and
looking forward to buying some
new atr tape

blender, i would suggest you take a little bit more time
and demonstrate that you love music - i admire your
panache, but calling "your worst song better than the
beatles best song" on the other, beatles thread, is
somewhat provacative - to many people the beatles
were a pretty great band

if your assessment of your own talents is even remotely accurate, i would
suggest recording with magnetic tape - it sounds great



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OK We have computers that do it for you.
They have a special forum for that. It's called low end. This one is called HIGH END.
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Thanks man you are the first person to be nice to me. This place is high stress.
Nah, Gearslutz is is cool.
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Nah, Gearslutz is is cool.
Anyway about the new tape. Does anyone know if all of it is on the old style 6 screw reels ?
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ampex 456 was between 125 -150 back in the mid 80's
never used quantegy.

who cares Id pay 500 for 2in
Ampex was what became quantegy, and if you paid 125 -150 you paid at least 35 dollars a reel too much. BTW if you'd like I'll sell you some brand new GP9 for 495, and save ya five bucks!
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