VT7 vs Phoenix ???
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22nd August 2007
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VT7 vs Phoenix ???

I'd like to upgrade my Avalon AD2044 on the master bus.

I usually do "pop music" and acoustic "pop" or "country".

I read so much about the VT7, and the Phoenix... it looks like i need one of them !!!

But wich one ???

I'd like to reduce the dynamique (of course...), but also glue everything in my mix and add a nice tube warmth behind my DAW.

What about the stereo image between those two units ?

Wich one could give the best "crunchy" sound ?

Does anyone here compared both ???

I'd like to try each of them, but it's going to be difficult, and even if i could, impossible to try both together...

Thanks !
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Wich one could give the best "crunchy" sound ?

It would never occur to me to call the VT7 cruncy, and if thats what youre going for, you might as well delete that from your list.

Never heard the phoenix ???

Best of luck with the rest of your life.
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Buss compression works best when you kiss it lightly with 2-3db of GR or less. Obviously many people would disagree, but I've found stereo buss compression is all about subtleties. These are 'character' pieces more than anything - meaning they impart their own 'character' on the sound even without being pushed (the character for some might be no character at all ...ex. cranesong's stc). 'Crunchy' which I don't exactly understand could be had with an SSL type buss comp. Phoenix won't get you there though. I have one...thats not its strong suit.
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Ok guys,

maybe it's because i don't have the good word.
I don't want a Culture Vulture or this kind of crunch...
When i say "crunchy", i think about this so nice colour i could find with my Millennia SST1 that i can't find whith a Chandler (wich is pretty good too !).
It's a shame i don't have the right word to write what i use to hear.

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Phoenix is what you're looking for
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You need 2 units.
Smart and Phoenix (chain).
Or Shaddow Hills compressor.
or upcoming Buzz Audio compressor.

I liked DWF mic pres and comp, but Phoenix did overall better job on 2-buss.
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i think i Go for the Phoenix...

Thanks.

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For "crunch" I've never met anything more musical than the Dramastic Audio "Obsidian"... but for pure euphonic sweetness... the Phoenix is a real charmer. The two of them together [note to self... try this soon!!] should be unbelievable.

Peace.
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I've got my Phoenix...

It's really nice !!!

I often read some threads about dual comp, but i must admit i would'nt know how to use 2 comps together...

By the way, I think i'm going to do some good job with "only" the Phoenix...

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For "crunch" I've never met anything that sucks more (while still making me money) than the Dramastic Audio "Obsidian"... but if you don't like the lame IC sound, the Phoenix is a real charmer.

I agree
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From Mercenarys website.

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At first glance the Dramastic Audio® OBSIDIAN compressor looks like any of the myriad of SSL buss compressor knockoff; looks can be very deceiving..
I remember seeing pictures of the guts of this one over at groupdiy. The PCB layout was so obviously copied from the gyraf DIY project PCB layout. I cant seem to find those pictures on the dramastic site anymore....

So why is this not just another knock-off, when they didnt even bother to do their own PCB-layout different from a well-known DIY version?


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what happened to these pics - can I check em?


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