Bricasti M7 as ADC?

[guru007]

I'll be shopping for a high end convertor (Lavry Blue, HEDD, etc) soon so I'm REALLY curious if anyone has compared the digital conversion of the Bricasti to anyone of the popular ADC contenders.

Given how well this reverb is being received, the M7 could be a hell of a multi-purpose tool if the conversion ranks well enough.

Comments?

guru007

[Madkour]

In Bricasti, you can't use the analog section and the digital section simultaneously.
If you are going to use the analog input you must use the analog output,
and If you are going to use the digital input you must use the digital output. Hope that help

[raal]

cool website tarek!

[guru007]

Originally Posted by Madkour

In Bricasti, you can't use the analog section and the digital section simultaneously.
If you are going to use the analog input you must use the analog output,
and If you are going to use the digital input you must use the digital output. Hope that help

Thanks. I guess that settles that.

guru007

[Madkour]

Originally Posted by raal

cool website tarek!

Thanks man

[effectsnut]

Originally Posted by guru007

I'll be shopping for a high end convertor (Lavry Blue, HEDD, etc) soon so I'm REALLY curious if anyone has compared the digital conversion of the Bricasti to anyone of the popular ADC contenders.

Given how well this reverb is being received, the M7 could be a hell of a multi-purpose tool if the conversion ranks well enough.

Comments?

guru007

I think if your serious your not going to use a reverb unit for conversion..who knows whats going on in there...

[cleartrueblue]

Originally Posted by effectsnut

I think if your serious your not going to use a reverb unit for conversion..who knows whats going on in there...

Mark Levinson is what's going on in there.

[effectsnut]

Originally Posted by cleartrueblue

Mark Levinson is what's going on in there.

whats your point? now i should buy a reverb unit for conversion? cant do it with this box but thats besides the point...

[guru007]

Originally Posted by effectsnut

whats your point? now i should buy a reverb unit for conversion? cant do it with this box but thats besides the point...

My initial thought was that this wouldn't be the first piece of gear that excelled at other tasks, not just the one it was primarily designed for.

Examples:

Radar - Not just a great multi-track recorder but also an outstanding convertor, that some folks now use exclusively for I/O.

TC System 6000 - When first introduced, a lot folks, G. Massenburg being one of them, found it to be exceptionally good at conversion, in addition to it's signal processing features. The KSP8 is another one.

Neve 1272 - I might be mistaken on this but wasn't it just a talkback pre when it was first designed?

Point being that we don't have to limit ourselves to thinking that Box X can't be used for anything other than Task X. If we're open to it, we might end up with something better, or at least, something almost as good but really different and new...which ain't a bad thing, methinks.



guru007

[ISedlacek]

Originally Posted by cleartrueblue

Mark Levinson is what's going on in there.

As far as I know, Mark Levinson cooperated in the design of the front panel, so it has really very little to do with ADC or anything else ...

[effectsnut]

Originally Posted by guru007

My initial thought was that this wouldn't be the first piece of gear that excelled at other tasks, not just the one it was primarily designed for.

Examples:

Radar - Not just a great multi-track recorder but also an outstanding convertor, that some folks now use exclusively for I/O.

TC System 6000 - When first introduced, a lot folks, G. Massenburg being one of them, found it to be exceptionally good at conversion, in addition to it's signal processing features. The KSP8 is another one.

Neve 1272 - I might be mistaken on this but wasn't it just a talkback pre when it was first designed?

Point being that we don't have to limit ourselves to thinking that Box X can't be used for anything other than Task X. If we're open to it, we might end up with something better, or at least, something almost as good but really different and new...which ain't a bad thing, methinks.



guru007

I understand where you coming from but there are limitations using a processor
for conversion..I've never heard a ksp8 but I have owned a system 6000 and thought the converters were just ok. I have a lex 960 and ad/da are far superior...I'm planning to get a system 6000 again but I'll buy a Rosetta 800 for ad/da converters..I think useing a processor for conversion would be limiting yourself.especially for flexibility.. dont listen to Massenburg because he practically works for tc electronics and his opinion is bias...just buy some good converters.. lol

[fifthcircle]

Originally Posted by ISedlacek

As far as I know, Mark Levinson cooperated in the design of the front panel, so it has really very little to do with ADC or anything else ...

At the last AES in San Francisco, when I asked about the analog front end, they specifically told me that Mark Levinson designed the converters.

On this subject, it seems like the lack of being able to use Analog and Digital at the same time is a rather massive design flaw.

Being that I do live work, I can think of lots of time that I'm recording w/ reverb. Often on the smaller digitial consoles, I've got the digital inputs loaded up with signal from my converters, but the digital outputs are empty. In that case, I will route out to my Lexicon 300 digitally and then route the returns back into the console via analog inputs.

Or- I'll route the output to two different places. I'll record one output of the reverb to its own set of tracks in the DAW and then take the other output and route it into the mixing console for the live mix.

These are just a couple of occasions where this functionality would be really important. Not being able to use both will be a huge disadvantage.

--Ben

[mpdonahue]

Originally Posted by ISedlacek

As far as I know, Mark Levinson cooperated in the design of the front panel, so it has really very little to do with ADC or anything else ...

To be clear, The analog stage was designed by the folks at Madrigal who designed the Levinson processors, not Mark Levinson himself. Mark himself hasn't been involved with the company since the 80's.
The front panel display was designed by in house by Bricasti. However, the inspiration is pretty obvious......

Look here.

All the best,
-mark