Which 2nd pair of moniters to get? NS10 or mixcubes

[usblink11]

I am trying to figure out which ones to get, what do you guys think?

Ns10 vs mixcubes.

this will be for checking the mix, my main moniters are the mackies hr 824s

[makasi]

Bump! im not gonna post it new because its already here. im also askiing for the same question! Mixcube vs yamaha ns10 vs tascam vl-m3 !

anyone? looking for a small 2nd reference not so hi detailed speaker to pair with adam a7x.

looking for a second reference as sometimes things dont sound too glued on the a7x! thanks

[Jomox]

Avantone Mixcubes
Behringer Behritone C50A
Yamaha NS10
Studiospares SN10

One of those will do the trick.

[makasi]

I know.. They might do its what people recomend! but i wanted to know the differences and recomendations!


cheers

[dhiltonlittle]

My monitoring set up is Barefoot MM27s, NS10s, and Avantone mixcubes with an Avocet controller.

They all have their uses but if I had to ditch one of the secondary pair's the Avantones would be the ones that go. That being said, I love them!

[ddageek]

Neither with the Mackies as one set I would want something with some Lowend!
NS10s and the original Auratones were on every meterbridge to give a Small speaker prospective, and they were cheap!

[makasi]

nice one thanks. im curious about the tascam vl-m3's though. 100 € would be a very affordable option

[the octopuss]

my opinion is that the mixcubes will tell you more of a different story than your mackies compared to the yams..in that regard I would go for the avantones
plus the ns 10 are great if you know them...if you are not already used to mix on them for a long time,you could spend a lot of time "guessing "
.....lot less the case with the cubes

[makasi]

the mixcubes seem winners! any way if anyone knows anything about vl m3's would be really nice to hear

[cowrange]

I was in the same situation and had the Avantone's on order. A great engineer friend of mine suggested the Pelonis model 42's instead and I don't regret it for a second. I think UBK is using them instead of his ns10's as well. My main monitors are Dynaudio BM6a's and although I like them, they always seemed to lack midrange focus. The Pelonis are very resolute in the mids. From my understanding the Avantones are more a "what it might sound like on a tv" monitor.

[makasi]

I know.. I feel exactly the same with my adam a7x.. dont know if its the room yet but i dont feel the mid range like in old monitors.. still getting used to but they seem so bright and amazingly deep in the low end that for me the mid range gets out of focus...
the quetion is that with the avantones it might be easier to do volumes and small tasks for reference, oposite to the pelonis which people say its a hi res monitor. and much more expensive lets say

[PhilDW]

The Avantone Mixcubes are like Auratones, I think that's the point, but I always thought that Auratones were used mainly in mono. You may not need two .

[toolate4roses]

I have the tascams. They sound delightfully terrible, couldn't be further from flat. I use them as a second reference to tannoy precision 8's and love them. I taped the cubes together and use them side by side, basically mono. really helps me get things to translate.

[Jomox]

Originally Posted by makasi

I know.. I feel exactly the same with my adam a7x.. dont know if its the room yet but i dont feel the mid range like in old monitors.. still getting used to but they seem so bright and amazingly deep in the low end that for me the mid range gets out of focus...
the quetion is that with the avantones it might be easier to do volumes and small tasks for reference, oposite to the pelonis which people say its a hi res monitor. and much more expensive lets say

Sounds like a room problem, bright and amazingly deep in the low end, I had this in one room that was not treated at all and weird shape. Now in a new room I'm in which has some ok treatment (And still improving) and being a longer room they are not bright at all and the low end is a little light if anything, but this helps bring the mid detail out.

Check review I did here and read about the room situation on the A7X, as it can play a big role as to how they sound (They are sensitive with rooms)

But as with any main monitor you use it's always good to have other references especially to check in the mid range.

[makasi]

my problem is that the rrom is not that big and almost square! hopefully with treatment most of these two problems will fade away! anyway yep im almost certain i will go the cheapway using the tascams... for their size and some opinions i think they will be a good option to a/b specially because of the size of the room! :/

weird im having this feeling with the adam's... ill check your post! nice one thanks

[Kid_Fiction]

Originally Posted by cowrange

I was in the same situation and had the Avantone's on order. A great engineer friend of mine suggested the Pelonis model 42's instead and I don't regret it for a second. I think UBK is using them instead of his ns10's as well. My main monitors are Dynaudio BM6a's and although I like them, they always seemed to lack midrange focus. The Pelonis are very resolute in the mids. From my understanding the Avantones are more a "what it might sound like on a tv" monitor.

I think they use those triangle shaped ones in post. Sorry I'm not near a computer so I can't check the name. The Avantones are great for balancing levels and compression, they just display dynamics really transparently... I'd a vocal isn't popping out on the Avantones it isn't loud enough... You can just hear straight away where everything is. They are also of course great for checking bass translation, and for checking translation onto the smaller systems that most people listen on i.e. The ipod headphones, laptop speakers etc... which are kind of the new Hi-Fi as opposed to the old Hi-Fi that the NS-10s represented. Having said that though I actually don't have that much experience with NS-10s

[makasi]

jomox your opinion on the a7x is great!!! wonderful hope with time and treatment i will get used.. and they will get better.. i know everyone speaks so well well well about the cubes, im just wondering if i will have the same luck with the tascam's as i cant spend more than 100 at the moment

[Jomox]

Originally Posted by makasi

jomox your opinion on the a7x is great!!! wonderful hope with time and treatment i will get used.. and they will get better.. i know everyone speaks so well well well about the cubes, im just wondering if i will have the same luck with the tascam's as i cant spend more than 100 at the moment

Then you should consider the Behringer Behritone or Studiospares SN10, both these are mid forward and will be good as second reference monitor. Studiospares only avaliable in UK though, guess shipping to US will be to expensive. The Behritone C5A is cheap, you could even run one in mono. I have one reference speaker running in mono downstairs, you'll be surprised on some tracks the flaw's that need fixing when played in mono.

[JamieOxford]

I have one reference speaker running in mono downstairs, you'll be surprised on some tracks the flaw's that need fixing when played in mono.

+1 for mono. I've been running a Genelec 1029a in mono alongside a set of old Klark Teknik monitors. It's surprising how much you can miss in stereo.

[pedrogoya]

Glad to see this post here! Im actually in the same situation. I have as main monitors the focal solos 6be. From time to time I record projects to a cd and go play it at the car to check the mixdowns or masterings. I really get the picture in the car (especially in the low freq section).

I was wondering the yamahas ns10 but I know theyre sound are really flat.
I need something that could translate me on how it would sound on a car/club/not the studio system. The avantones are the ones I should go?

[toolate4roses]

Originally Posted by pedrogoya

I was wondering the yamahas ns10 but I know theyre sound are really flat.

NS-10's are nowhere near being flat.

[pedrogoya]

Nevermind! Just made confusion with the hs models!

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by toolate4roses

NS-10's are nowhere near being flat.

Not crazy about them but yea a little colored.

[JDN]

Originally Posted by makasi

I know.. I feel exactly the same with my adam a7x.. dont know if its the room yet but i dont feel the mid range like in old monitors.. still getting used to but they seem so bright and amazingly deep in the low end that for me the mid range gets out of focus...
the quetion is that with the avantones it might be easier to do volumes and small tasks for reference, oposite to the pelonis which people say its a hi res monitor. and much more expensive lets say

I'm so glad to read this. I have A7x and NS-10's and switch between while mixing. I have been thinking of selling the NS-10's, but that midrange keeps you coming back. Sure They suck for low end and aren't as detailed as the A7x's, but damn if you get your vocals and guitars sitting right on NS-10's, it just translates