MC77/1176 vs TG1

S75 · 27th July 2007

Hello,
have you compared these two comps?

Above all for voice (mainly in the rock/metal field)

Thanks

kats · 27th July 2007

I use them daily side by side. The TG1 give a more chesty/big sound to the vocal than an 1176. The 1176 is more flexable and has a more "forward" sound as well as being a very familiar sound. I've never really a/b'd them per se, and ususally go 1176-->La2a for vox simply because I have the TG1 (and now a zener) on other duties more often than not. I find the Tg1/Zener has much more impact on drums and acoustic guitars than an 1176 would so it doesn't get the chance to see vox duties as much as it should.

Fletcher · 27th July 2007

The MC-77 is a world fuller and richer sounding than the UA 1176 and in many ways is just an amazing compliment to the TG-1.

I usually use the MC-77 on bass, something I have found the TG-1 is not one of the best tools for that application... however, I have found that when I record vocals through the MC-77 then use the TG-1 on those same vocals when mixing the audio has an amazing ability to just "sit" in a mix like nobody's business.

I usually prefer the TG-1 to most everything in my arsenal when it comes to guitars... and at times it is my weapon of choice for parallel drum buss duties [though I have to say it's been getting less and less use in that application as the Dramastic Audio "Obsidian" has been getting the call for that role more and more often].

In my never humble opinion, both are exceptionally excellent tools that compliment each other in a beautiful manner... but are absolutely NOT interchangable.

Hope that sheds some light.

Peace.

tobymusic · 27th July 2007

I have not used them side by side but I would suspect that (apart from the 1176´s 4-button-mode) the TG-1 will be a lot more audible when doing the same gain reduction compared to the 1176. I would also say the 1176 slightly attenuates the bottom end - thus bringing especially vocals and guitars forward in the mix - the TG will have more bottom end for sure.

HudHudson · 30th July 2007

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Originally Posted by tobymusic

I would also say the 1176 slightly attenuates the bottom end - thus bringing especially vocals and guitars forward in the mix - the TG will have more bottom end for sure.

This should not be true if the 1176 or clone is working up to spec. Older units that need recapping will be shy on the low end.

chandlersonic · 31st July 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by HudHudson

This should not be true if the 1176 or clone is working up to spec. Older units that need recapping will be shy on the low end.

I haven't experienced this either.

27th July 2007	#1
S75 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 230 Thread Starter	MC77/1176 vs TG1 Hello, have you compared these two comps? Above all for voice (mainly in the rock/metal field) Thanks

27th July 2007	#3
Fletcher member no 666 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 9,464	The MC-77 is a world fuller and richer sounding than the UA 1176 and in many ways is just an amazing compliment to the TG-1. I usually use the MC-77 on bass, something I have found the TG-1 is not one of the best tools for that application... however, I have found that when I record vocals through the MC-77 then use the TG-1 on those same vocals when mixing the audio has an amazing ability to just "sit" in a mix like nobody's business. I usually prefer the TG-1 to most everything in my arsenal when it comes to guitars... and at times it is my weapon of choice for parallel drum buss duties [though I have to say it's been getting less and less use in that application as the Dramastic Audio "Obsidian" has been getting the call for that role more and more often]. In my never humble opinion, both are exceptionally excellent tools that compliment each other in a beautiful manner... but are absolutely NOT interchangable. Hope that sheds some light. Peace. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome TELEFUNKEN Elektroakustik SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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27th July 2007	#2
kats Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,647	I use them daily side by side. The TG1 give a more chesty/big sound to the vocal than an 1176. The 1176 is more flexable and has a more "forward" sound as well as being a very familiar sound. I've never really a/b'd them per se, and ususally go 1176-->La2a for vox simply because I have the TG1 (and now a zener) on other duties more often than not. I find the Tg1/Zener has much more impact on drums and acoustic guitars than an 1176 would so it doesn't get the chance to see vox duties as much as it should.

27th July 2007	#4
tobymusic Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Continental Europe Posts: 729	I have not used them side by side but I would suspect that (apart from the 1176´s 4-button-mode) the TG-1 will be a lot more audible when doing the same gain reduction compared to the 1176. I would also say the 1176 slightly attenuates the bottom end - thus bringing especially vocals and guitars forward in the mix - the TG will have more bottom end for sure.