Flickinger 351-1 Program Equalizer

[superwack]

Electronaut seems to have given you tons of good stuff (which, I found interesting too ) you may want to send a message to Bill Skibbe @ Skibbe electronics (key club recording) as he's just put out 500 series Flickinger pres and is working on a repro of the A58A EQ - at least according to his website. May be able to add to the info already supplied?

[Silvertone]

Look, I said where are all the inductors, I see a couple but not as many as my Pultecs. Which clearly Dan was doing a sort of "knock off" with this design.

I use to own a Flickinger console. I'm very familiar with his work.

Some of Flickingers stuff was built great, others not... that's all. I bought and sold several pieces of Dans gear over the years.

I'll stop adding to this thread now as I don't want to spread "misinformation" (even though I searched out Flickinger before most were born on this site).

Good luck with the sale of the EQ's.

[sloaneamps]

Ok, tested them today and they work. Pots are a little scratchy but not a big deal.

[sloaneamps]

Please do Silvertone, with all due respect, your are all over the place:

"(Flickinger built stuff physically really well and component wise as well), I would say it has the same value or close to the same value as the solid state EQP1A3 which Fletcher told me in the past is about 3 to 4K each depending on condition."

"Some of Flickingers stuff was built great, others not... that's all."

Huh?? He built stuff really well, then in another post, "others not"

"Look, I said where are all the inductors, I see a couple but not as many as my Pultecs"
******//www.electronaut.info/public/EQP1R.pdf

This Pultec has two (a couple inductors)

Flickinger probably copied what looks to be a Pultec EQP1A3.
"This is not a clone of a Pultec or a Lang... (as already stated)."

[Silvertone]

Originally Posted by sloaneamps

Please do Silvertone, with all due respect, your are all over the place:

"(Flickinger built stuff physically really well and component wise as well), I would say it has the same value or close to the same value as the solid state EQP1A3 which Fletcher told me in the past is about 3 to 4K each depending on condition."

"Some of Flickingers stuff was built great, others not... that's all."

Huh?? He built stuff really well, then in another post, "others not"

"Look, I said where are all the inductors, I see a couple but not as many as my Pultecs"
******//www.electronaut.info/public/EQP1R.pdf

This Pultec has two (a couple inductors)

Flickinger probably copied what looks to be a Pultec EQP1A3.
"This is not a clone of a Pultec or a Lang... (as already stated)."

You may think you have a Pultec... you do not.

You may think all of Dans stuff was built great... it was not.

Three of his consoles started on fire... that how f*cked up his builds could be... and why people wouldn't buy Flickinger in the day. You were not there... in fact no one on this friggin board was there!

I lived through this time, I owned one of his consoles... You on the other hand own an EQ which you know nothing about...

I am not all over the place... Dan was.

Hey, some idiot out there probably will give you the same money as a Pultec... there's a fool born every minute.

[sloaneamps]

No Silvertone, Silvertone I don't think I have a Pultec and never thought I had a Pultec,

"Sorry Sloane... she ain't no Pultec."
"You may think you have a Pultec... you do not."

So why the hell do you keep insisting that I think I have a Pultec???


"You may think all of Dans stuff was built great... it was not."

I never said Flickingers stuff was built great. YOU did in one post then you came back and said "others not" So in 2007 his stuff was built really well..Period. Then you come back and say "others not."

"You on the other hand own an EQ which you know nothing about..."

And I own an EQ YOU know nothing about.....Actually, at this time I think I know more about it than you....Since you keep comparing to an EPQ1A3 when it is really more "like" a EPQ1R. I don't really care how old you are, that you been there, or that anyone on this board was there or not. Obviously you have all this life long wisdom and experience but you have been inaccurate and inconsistent from the get go.

Yes you ARE all over the place.


Silvertone, can you find me the person who gave these two quotes and lease tell me he/she is not all over the place and inconsistent?


"(Flickinger built stuff physically really well and component wise as well), I would say it has the same value or close to the same value as the solid state EQP1A3 which Fletcher told me in the past is about 3 to 4K each depending on condition."

"Hey, some idiot out there probably will give you the same money as a Pultec... there's a fool born every minute."



"I'll stop adding to this thread now as I don't want to spread "misinformation" (even though I searched out Flickinger before most were born on this site)."

Again, please do stop.

[Jack P]

I remember vintage King selling a pair of these a couple of
years ago from the Record Plant.

[sloaneamps]

Originally Posted by Dubbin

You're misunderstanding his intent.

He was just trying to let you know that some Flickingers were classics and others were not. Based on what electronaut has said, it seems that this isn't one of those valuable Flickingers.

All Silvertone was saying is that Flickinger designs were not consistently "good" or "bad" and thus, it's difficult to assess their proper value. Everybody here was just trying to save you a headache if and when you decide to sell it.

I am not disputing the value of the EQ's that I have. It's pretty obvious that he probably forgot more about studio gear than I will ever know. I am pointing out that Silvertone in his quest to be "helpful" is really inconsistent and inaccurate with what he saying which is not helpful at all. It pretty obvious that he is doing a lot of guesswork and can't man up when he's been call out on it. Was he trying to be helpful? Sure. As far as I am concerned it was secondary to his need to hear himself.
I am not sure what he was TRYING to say but maybe he should just say what he means instead of using such a arrogant and condescending tone.

If you read the this thread from the beginning, Pulse_Divider started this thread in 2007. He had the same EQ'S I have which Silvertone talks about here:

"(Flickinger built stuff physically really well and component wise as well), I would say it has the same value or close to the same value as the solid state EQP1A3 which Fletcher told me in the past is about 3 to 4K each depending on condition."

How could he have any idea what Pulse_Divider's EQ's were worth that much when he never saw what was inside them? From the outside they do look simaliar to Pultec EPQ1A3's but much closer inside to EPQ1R. See the schematic that electronaut posted.

Then he's asking about why mine the the inductors and that it should have more than two. The fact is the the Pultec EPQ1R has only two and so did the Flickenger's that Pulse_Divider had. He was clearly guessing which is not helpful and just clouding the issue. I am also corresponding with other forum member's by email. As soon as he starts posting his guesswork about where are the inductors, I start getting emails from other members asking the same thing. I admit the first set of pic were not very good but that is no excuse to guess and make assumptions.

[mrcalrec]

Hi,
How much for the pair? Please call if you have them for sale.
Thanks, 415-244-0539

[sloaneamps]

They have been sold. Thanks to all that helped.

[amthompson]

A little late to chime in here... but Cleon Wells, the chief tech at Chicago Recording Company, was one of the original employees at Flickinger and helped design and build a lot of that gear. I've asked him about it many times and he always refers to it as "that old junk we used to 'kluge' together." If you're really convincing you may be able to get him to help.

[lektracoustics]

Quite a late response, but an idle moment ...

The large output transformer is a B.F.T. ... this stood for bi-filar transformer.

There were some problems with these transformers, including some engineers who experienced interference with them due to poor common mode rejection. It is also alleged that the vendor supplying the transformers cut corners in the design resulting in a transformer that was not actually bifilar wound as designed ... hence giving rise to the problems with it and perhaps the off-color epithet.

Interestingly, this unit appears to have 3 signal transformers (2 BFT's and one little potted TXFMR. From the controls, and from Electronaut's (graciously provided) schematic, three transformers would be one too many (?).

[electronaut]

Originally Posted by lektracoustics

Interestingly, this unit appears to have 3 signal transformers (2 BFT's and one little potted TXFMR. From the controls, and from Electronaut's (graciously provided) schematic, three transformers would be one too many (?).

Oh wow... I didn't even see that little guy in the photo until you pointed it out. That one looks identical to the "LMFT" transformer used as 1:1 or 1:2 input in the Flickinger mic-preamp cards.

If I had to guess, I would say the LMFT is the input transformer, and the output of the passive filter section drives the first BMFT, which is setup as an interstage transformer to provide a balanced signal to the opamp. The opamp then drives another BMFT for balanced output.

That would make sense since that's exactly how the Pultec is setup. If that's true, my schematic is missing the interstage transformer, so anyone interested in this should bear that in mind!