api, pacifica, great river, chandler, neve which do you prefer on electrics

heybulldog · 9th May 2007

recording electric guitars
mics I have
57's
e609 silvers
421's
414
c12
cascade fathead ribbon
royer 121
crowley and tripp naked eye ribbon

so I have a ton of cool microphones, but I need more pres. Did searches but didnt find anything for pop music. I love the edge, harrison, voxy ac30 type chimey stuff. Radiohead style stuff as well. I also dig alot of current type stuff. What is the preamp that you have liked best for this application.

chandler tg2, chandler ltd1, chandler germanium, a designs pacifica, api 3124, great river mp2nv, neve 1073???

these are my current options. would love to have em all, but budget was killed by the ribbon mic purchases.

Mike Jasper · 9th May 2007

I have recorded into all these preamps except the Neve and the TG2. All of them work. They'll sound different, sure, but they'll all work. Pick one and go.

API and Neve are classic sounds, of course. Some people will tell you to run into the Great River MP2-NV then out into a Chandler. Others will point you to Pacifica samples.

You've got all the right mics. Pick a preamp and start experimenting. Find your own sound. With those mics and one of these preamps, you'll find a good one.

Jasper

Mastering101 · 9th May 2007

i have these premps chandler tg2, , chandler germanium, a designs pacifica, , great river mp2nv and i love the tg2 for guitars by far..great river close second

heyman · 9th May 2007

I have the Api, Great River and Pacifica.. They are all great in their own way. Jasper said it best, you have the right mics..

Mic Placement will always be key, dont rest on the fact that they are great pre's and will fix all your problems.. Use your ears..

Also check out that new UA 6176, They updated the preamp section and it sounds nice as well.

Best of luck.

hurricaneE · 9th May 2007

Portico and API beat out my TG-2 and Hardy on guitars. -E

RoundBadge · 9th May 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jasper

I have recorded into all these preamps except the Neve and the TG2. All of them work. They'll sound different, sure, but they'll all work. Pick one and go.

API and Neve are classic sounds, of course. Some people will tell you to run into the Great River MP2-NV then out into a Chandler. Others will point you to Pacifica samples.

You've got all the right mics. Pick a preamp and start experimenting. Find your own sound. With those mics and one of these preamps, you'll find a good one.

Jasper

Exactly right.
Listen to Mike.
you've got loads of great mics..try some demos..pick one and start recording.
I have all the Neve,API,Chandler,Wunder,Telefunken..etc .they're all good.

I've recorded average players/rigs through Neve,chandler..Neumann,etc and it still sounds average.
Also recorded great players/sources through supposed "less than" gear and it still sounded great .

the combination of player/guitar/amp are ten times more important.
Have fun.

robot gigante · 9th May 2007

I agree that all of those pre's will work just fine. I'm sure a search will bring up a lot of threads though!

If you're really into that chimey AC30 sound then it will definitely be worth tracking down a good original JMI Vox (assuming you're not already using one of course!).

If you want something that will make a massive difference in tone, that would be it! I've owned a couple reissues before, but the first time I plugged into a JMI Top Boost the sound I'd been hearing on all those classic albums was instantly there. Amazing.

Daedalus77 · 10th May 2007

We've got a Bad Cat here that gets used quite frequently for just the sound you describing.

We've got the API and Great River. Both are "great" for this task, but the Great River excels, I think.

Set up is most commonly a blend of 57 (up close) and Gefell UMT70S (in a variety of positions and polar patterns, as required by the part and desired sound).

Hope that's helpful.

9th May 2007	#1
heybulldog Gear Head Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 44 Thread Starter	api, pacifica, great river, chandler, neve which do you prefer on electrics recording electric guitars mics I have 57's e609 silvers 421's 414 c12 cascade fathead ribbon royer 121 crowley and tripp naked eye ribbon so I have a ton of cool microphones, but I need more pres. Did searches but didnt find anything for pop music. I love the edge, harrison, voxy ac30 type chimey stuff. Radiohead style stuff as well. I also dig alot of current type stuff. What is the preamp that you have liked best for this application. chandler tg2, chandler ltd1, chandler germanium, a designs pacifica, api 3124, great river mp2nv, neve 1073??? these are my current options. would love to have em all, but budget was killed by the ribbon mic purchases.

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heyman Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 2,769	I have the Api, Great River and Pacifica.. They are all great in their own way. Jasper said it best, you have the right mics.. Mic Placement will always be key, dont rest on the fact that they are great pre's and will fix all your problems.. Use your ears.. Also check out that new UA 6176, They updated the preamp section and it sounds nice as well. Best of luck. __________________ Best quote ever....! Posted by Infernal Device.. "Guitar Center.... Even the good news is in the moan zone."

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Mike Jasper Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,729	I have recorded into all these preamps except the Neve and the TG2. All of them work. They'll sound different, sure, but they'll all work. Pick one and go. API and Neve are classic sounds, of course. Some people will tell you to run into the Great River MP2-NV then out into a Chandler. Others will point you to Pacifica samples. You've got all the right mics. Pick a preamp and start experimenting. Find your own sound. With those mics and one of these preamps, you'll find a good one. Jasper

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Mastering101 Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Location: ma. Posts: 1,534 1 Review written	i have these premps chandler tg2, , chandler germanium, a designs pacifica, , great river mp2nv and i love the tg2 for guitars by far..great river close second

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hurricaneE Gear addict Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 411	Portico and API beat out my TG-2 and Hardy on guitars. -E

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robot gigante Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2003 Location: out west Posts: 3,993 3 Reviews written	I agree that all of those pre's will work just fine. I'm sure a search will bring up a lot of threads though! If you're really into that chimey AC30 sound then it will definitely be worth tracking down a good original JMI Vox (assuming you're not already using one of course!). If you want something that will make a massive difference in tone, that would be it! I've owned a couple reissues before, but the first time I plugged into a JMI Top Boost the sound I'd been hearing on all those classic albums was instantly there. Amazing.

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Daedalus77 Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,645	We've got a Bad Cat here that gets used quite frequently for just the sound you describing. We've got the API and Great River. Both are "great" for this task, but the Great River excels, I think. Set up is most commonly a blend of 57 (up close) and Gefell UMT70S (in a variety of positions and polar patterns, as required by the part and desired sound). Hope that's helpful.