Are These TDM Plugs Worth It

[barryjohns]

If you could buy all of these HD Plugin's for 1400.00 would you do it. How many of these are not good? Basically I'm looking at an HD system and the price is about 1400.00 over the typical going used price of the core system.

Digidesign - ReVibe™
Bomb Factory - Slightly Rude Compressor™
Digidesign - Hybrid
Digidesign - Smack
Digidesign - Impact
Bomb Factory BF-3A
Bomb Factory -Pultec EQP-1A
Bomb Factory -Pultec MEQ-5
Bomb Factory -Pultec EQH-2
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Aggro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL EveryPhase™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Metro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Tune™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Mastermeter™
Digidesign - Synchronic
Cosmonaut Voice
Focusrite D2/D3
JoeMeek SC2 Compressor
JoeMeek VC5 Meequalizer
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Lowpass Filter
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Analog Delay
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger 12-Stage Phaser
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Ring Modulator
Bomb Factory -Purple Audio MC77
Bomb Factory -Voce Spin
Bomb Factory -Voce Chorus
Digidesign - Bruno Reso

[jdjustice]

Originally Posted by barryjohns

Digidesign - ReVibe™
Bomb Factory - Slightly Rude Compressor™
Digidesign - Hybrid
Digidesign - Smack
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Aggro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL EveryPhase™
Digidesign - Synchronic

i would NOT pay $1400 extra.

the plugins i listed above are the ones out of your list that i actually like.
the rest i would not use probably ever, but that's just me perhaps.

out of the ones i listed that i said i like, only Hybrid and Smack! do i really find useful.
TL EveryPhase is fun sometimes but there are other plugins that do what it does imo better.

jmho.
~j.d.

[drBill]

The only plug I HAVE to have out of all those is REvibe. I also like smack, but now with the $79 dollar Massey compressor CT4, I'm using smack much less. So those two are the only ones I really like out of your whole bunch.

The moogerfooger stuff is cool, but it's specialty stuff. I'll use it once in a while.

[walth]

They usually come free with an HD3 system. They shouldn't charge you extra.
Check digi's site. Is this an HD3 system by the way? Still it's not worth $1400. They should be included.

[jdjustice]

demo as many of them as you can from the Digi site.
i don't think many of them will impress you too much if you have experience with really quality plugins (if that is not an oxymoron).

i could not for the life of me see using any of those plugins that i didn't list in my quote on ANY track, save what drBill said about the MoogerFooger stuff being specialty and once-in-a-while useful.



~j.d.

[barryjohns]

There are several used HD1 PCIe Accel systems out there for around 4k. A reputable dealer, dutchmusik, has an HD1 for 5400 with the plugs above. I plan to buy an HD1 and then buy another Acell card right away, which seems to be going for around 1500. I would by and used HD2 PCIe if there was one out there. The only one I've seen is 6999.00 with these plugs. Are they worth 1500.00?

Bomb Factory Pultec EQP-1A
Bomb Factory Pultec MEQ-5
Bomb Factory Pultec EQH-2
Digidesign - Reverb One
Digidesign - Impact
Line 6 Amp Farm 3
Antares Avox Punch
Antares Avox Choir
Eventide H3000 Band Delays
Eventide Ultra Channel
Bomb Factory BF-3A
Bomb Factory Sansamp PSA-1
Princeton Digital — Plate Reverb
Princeton Digital — Space Station SST-282
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Aggro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL EveryPhase™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Metro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Tune™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Mastermeter™
Bomb Factory -Tel-Ray
Digidesign - Synchronic
Cosmonaut Voice
Digidesign - D-FI
Digidesign - Maxim
Access Virus Indigo
Focusrite D2/D3
JoeMeek SC2 Compressor
JoeMeek VC5 Meequalizer
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Lowpass Filter
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Analog Delay
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger 12-Stage Phaser
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Ring Modulator
Bomb Factory -Purple Audio MC77
Bomb Factory -Voce Spin
Bomb Factory -Voce Chorus
Digidesign - Bruno Reso

[jdjustice]

Originally Posted by barryjohns

Antares Avox Punch
Antares Avox Choir

the AVOX plugins are so bad i wouldn't use them if someone paid me extra to do so.
i couldn't ever find a single viable use for them.

Eventide H3000 Band Delays
Eventide Ultra Channel
Princeton Digital — Plate Reverb
Princeton Digital — Space Station SST-282

the Eventide/Princeton plugs i have less experience with and they may be worth getting.


i can say that dutchmuzik is indeed a reputable dealer and a trustworthy one.
you will get a fair price from him.
if you don't want the plugins you could always try and sell them to someone who does...


cheers.
~j.d.

[max cooper]

I would hardly pay $14 for that lot of Bomb Factory stuff.

I also think the Moogerfooger plugins are extremely wack.

[drBill]

OCCATIONALLY USE:
Line 6 Amp Farm 3
Bomb Factory Sansamp PSA-1
Bomb Factory -Tel-Ray (Specialty delay - cool sometimes)

USED TO USE:
Digidesign - Maxim (now the $100 Massey 2007 SMOKES it.)

THIS IS REALLY NICE IF YOU NEED IT:
Access Virus Indigo

USEABLE BUT RARELY USE:
Focusrite D2/D3
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Lowpass Filter
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Analog Delay
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger 12-Stage Phaser
Bomb Factory -Purple Audio MC77

EH??? I COULD CARE LESS:
Bomb Factory Pultec EQP-1A
Bomb Factory Pultec MEQ-5
Bomb Factory Pultec EQH-2
Digidesign - Reverb One
Digidesign - Impact
Eventide H3000 Band Delays
Eventide Ultra Channel
Bomb Factory BF-3A
Princeton Digital — Plate Reverb
Princeton Digital — Space Station SST-282
Digidesign - Synchronic
Cosmonaut Voice
Digidesign - D-FI
JoeMeek SC2 Compressor
JoeMeek VC5 Meequalizer
Bomb Factory -MoogerFooger Ring Modulator
Bomb Factory -Voce Spin
Bomb Factory -Voce Chorus
Digidesign - Bruno Reso

NOT FAMILIAR WITH
Antares Avox Punch
Antares Avox Choir
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Aggro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL EveryPhase™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Metro™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Tune™
Trillium Lane Labs — TL Mastermeter™



Although it had less plug-ins, I think the other package was better.

bp

[robot gigante]

Of all the plugs in both lists the only ones I think are even ok are:

Smack
Impact
TL Aggro
(not that I use them much, but for plugins they are ok)
Virus Indigo (I agree that it's great if it's something you need)
the Eventide stuff (cool)
Princeton- ok but price those plugs out by themselves. They go for cheap.

I haven't used Hybrid or Synchronic however.

dfegad Bombfactory

$1400 extra? I dunno.

For compression and EQ you could get away with Massey (inexpensive) and the free Digirack ones and be all right to start off with, and also get the MDW and URS if you can. I don't think you'll be missing out on too much by not having TL Aggro, Impact and Smack. Smack covers similar territory to TL Aggro anyway, you'd probably do fine with just one. Softsynths- hmm depends if you need them. Verb? Best look for different ones than on that list except for the Princetons but they go for cheap. FX- well, the Eventide stuff rocks, but just Band Delays? Better if you bought them singly

So, not worth it imho.

[catfish11]

no, look on ebay

you can get smack for about 60.00
you can get revibe for under 100.00
indigo smokes hybrid (only 200 presets, come on digi) and is tdm, I believe that indigo is the best soft synth ever of course YMMV, around 100.00 on ebay (about 10,000 presets, maybe more)

I have not heard everything on your list, but the above are good plugs
bombflunkery is NOT dabomb

there are alot of threads about the best plugs for a hd system
it would be to your advantage to search those out

tl stuff is good but there are others out there, like the massey stuff

others have told you, I just wanted to point out the ebay thing

revibe is a very, very good reverb by the way

[ToddF]

That's about 50 dollars a plugin not bad.
You will need plugins and if not these then others will cost probably more.

It all depends on your needs.

If your budget is only for an HD1 then paying out more money for plugins might not be an option.

These are all usable. Revibe is actually very good.

Todd

[Stiff]

To put it this way, Bomb Factory didn't age like a fine whine. For $1400 I'd get something else, you can get cheaper AND better plug-ins if you go with Massey, but I'd probably pick another bundle on top of that or a few selected top plug-ins I'd feel I use much.

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by Stiff

To put it this way, Bomb Factory didn't age like a fine whine. For $1400 I'd get something else, you can get cheaper AND better plug-ins if you go with Massey, but I'd probably pick another bundle on top of that or a few selected top plug-ins I'd feel I use much.

+1

i agree

[zimv20]

wow, i guess i'm the only one who makes use of that moogerfooger phaser on a regular basis. i usually throw it on a mult somewhere when i need some subtle movement.

otoh, i've never found a use for the Slightly Rude Compressor, which i like to call the Slightly Useless Compressor.

[wildpark]

Eventide h 3000 is nice acess virus indigo is nice

the other plugs is just commercial from digi ! imho

if i need the moog sound in the software domain

i will go with 100 dollar gforce synth or more nice moog v2 from arturia with bode much options more as this small effekt plugs for that laarge amound you listetd

and

for shure you will found your softwarepack for 250 dollar sometimes from dudes how pay digi befor look on some street marketplaces like this..

thx patrick

[Whitecat]

I've tried the RTAS versions of just about all of those (where available), and the only ones that are really worth paying for IMVHO are Hybrid, Smack, TL Aggro (tube drive mode notwithstanding), d2/d3, Moogerfooger Analog Delay (I love it on guitars), and I also like the 'all buttons in' sound on the MC77 (but have never used it 'normally').

[The Byre]

Right now, DAW prices are sinking like rocks. If you think old desks are going cheap, that is as nothing compared to what is happening to DAWs, PT included.

I have never paid for plugs. If the vendor does not bundle them in to sweeten the deal, then there is always one who will. Insist on Autotune and a good limiter. They may not be able to bundle the latest version, but then they will always have an old license for an older version available.

[oceantracks]

Be very cautious about buying super low priced plugs on Ebay, with a promise of iLOK license transfer.

You may get the plug ,and the iLOk transfer, but you won't get a serial number. When a major upgrade is offered, you will be hosed, as you would have been with Soundtoys V3, which ASKS FOR YOUR SERIAL NO. You don't get a serial number with some of these 'great deals" out there...


TH