Frank Filipetti - 5 Kick Drum Mics

[kevinc]

Robotnik`s a superstar.

[Tousana]

Frank Fillipetti can do whatever the hell he wants to,because his credits speak for themselves,and that's what people pay him to do. It's always nice to have the option of having multiple mics to mix and match.Although many of the projects I do don't have the time or the money to spend getting that many mics placed and sounding good on just the kick. So if he gets the time and the budget to do this thats great,although I'm sure that for what they spent on that album,many a good indie album could have been made.

[ZEUSS]

Originally posted by Robotnik
"Death Kick" no doubt.

Pretty ****ing lame.

LOL I was gonna say death kik but........ stike
I figured someone on here would know what I meant.

[drundall]

I agree with those here that think the last two Korn records sound terrible. At least they're uninteresting musically.

Credits don't track albums.

[Robotnik]

Originally posted by Kent
hmmm... I'm not in on it. Can someone explain it to me? Especially Robotits or Zeuss!

I'd rather wait for cdog's or Steve Smith's explanation.

[jpaudio]

Forget about mics, I wanna know how many edits it took to make Korn sound like a band that can count to 4...

[jpaudio]

Originally posted by cdog
No offense taken guys... but have you ever looked at Filipetti's credits?

The guy is a world class engineer by any measure. The conception that he throws up 5 mics just for the band and the secretly soundreplaces one of them, is cute. It made me smile. The guys in Korn couldn't give a rats ass how many mics he puts up.

Brain, I'm not sure what kind of music you track, but I'm guessing Nashville ain't the home of hardcore or black metal (not that Korn are either).

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

do you guys mix as well as you crack jokes???? I'd like a listen...

World class... world ass... etc.

As someone else stated, it's all about the $$,$$$

You can't say what the guys in Korn think about mic'ing... they might get off on it, who knows. They lost their integrity back around "Got the Life"...

I can say that most guys like FF are so ridiculously full of themselves that THEY get off on talking about things like this. Just like Beinhorn and his 2" 8-track or guitar synths (sure did wonders for that crap-tastic Ozzy album). I'm not impressed by anyone who spends that much money and time on an album... i wanna hear the album that was done in 2 weeks with a total of 5 mics and outsells Korn.

[jpaudio]

Forget about mics, I wanna know how many edits it took to make Korn sound like a band that can count to 4...

[Ianneve]

I wanna thank the guys on this post for making me laugh. That was a good laugh. :>) I use the Beta 52 on the kick and some big eared engineers have thought it was that sure PZM cause of the high end I got. Go figure? And drumagog is a nice enhancment tool. :>) Whatever it takes I say...

[muziqfreek]

Beta 52 rocks my world..... Used to use a D112 and then spend half an hour Eq'ing, Compressing & Gating etc... then spend an hour per track soundreplacing -

Bought a Beta 52 - now i spend the extra time drinking tea and receiving complements on the Kick sound!!!!

Sound replacer still gets a look in sometimes for alternate variations or for a triggered sine wave @ half the pitch of the kick jus for extra sub....)

[Fibes]

Is that the same article in which they discussed spending a couple days selecting the recording format and mentioned using hardly any eq on the kick except for maybe a 12db boost at 63. 12db=hardly. WHATEVER! It still isn't music to my ears.

Yer killin me.

[chrisjin]

anybody have any info on his hi-hat miking technique?fuuck

[kevinc]

I can only imagine.

[Robotnik]

Originally posted by Fibes
12db boost at 63. 12db=hardly.

API 560 graphic...the ultimate EQ for rock kick drum. I prefer 31Hz at +12dB.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally posted by Robotnik
API 560 graphic...the ultimate EQ for rock kick drum.

The API 560 is great on many kind of kick drums(Hiphop/R&B,Dance,etc).

It also works great on a crosstick snare drum.

[Fibes]

Originally posted by thethrillfactor
The API 560 is great on many kind of kick drums(Hiphop/R&B,Dance,etc).

It also works great on a crosstick snare drum.

Without a doubt. 12db of boost no matter how narrow isn't "hardly any" however.

[Jay Kahrs]

Originally posted by Fibes
Is that the same article in which they discussed spending a couple days selecting the recording format and mentioned using hardly any eq on the kick except for maybe a 12db boost at 63. 12db=hardly. WHATEVER! It still isn't music to my ears.

Yer killin me.

Yeah. That's the article.

Ya know, after that article I expected to hear a record that sounded great, amazing...but it was just another rock record. There was nothing ground breaking IMHO.

Ah well.

[jazzius II]

I heard it was 5 drummers and one mic.......

[kevinc]

[adamcal]

5 mics, 33 mics, 67 mics, bah. you guys are all nuts.

I dont use any mics, what I do is hook up a hard disk video recorder to a camera on the kick pedal, and record it in sync with the multi.

then in the mix as I watch the video, I manualy trigger a kick sound with my fingers on a old drum machine, the only problem was the drum machine dosent have trigger pads, so I hook up a trigger bug to the underside of the unit and give it a good whack.

from that I trigger a sampler with trigger ins, but that dosent have very good sounds in it, so I take the audio out from the sampler and put it through a drawmer midi gate, that sends a midi note when it opens, then I trigger a different but better sounding sampler with midi, and record the audio from that onto a old 3" 23 track analog deck that is running. (but not totaly in sync - just running)

then...

[jpaudio]

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
Ya know, after that article I expected to hear a record that sounded great, amazing...but it was just another rock record. There was nothing ground breaking IMHO.

Not only was it not a great-sounding record, but it wasn't even Korn's best-sounding work, and that's not saying a whole lot.

Besides, the songs were just total crap, and regardless of mics, that's the bottom line.

[HypocritePro.]

Did anyone else hear Frank Filipetti talk at the AES convention this year... he has mention that he used up to 32 mics on that one drum setup...

To bad the phase issues 'still' couldn't help Korn's sound (IMO)

[Drumsound]

How come if I mention a dislike for a certain reverb loving, overediting, 80 background vocal tracking, Nashville wife having producer I get jumped on like the new kid in Prison, but It's OK to rip on Filipetti?

[Jay Kahrs]

Not everyone is ripping on FF...