Removing hard T's and pops from main vocal

AB3 · 6th April 2007

Working on a meditation album. Any suggestions on removing the hard t's and pops. Already recorded, so re-recording is not a solution. Perhaps my lil req de-essers are the best solution. Any other ideas?
THANKS,
AB

zboy2854 · 6th April 2007

For pops, a deesser isn't going to do you much good. Best bet is to either automate or offline process EQ on the offending popping consonants using a high pass filter, you may need to roll off anywhere up to 200 Hz.

Jason Poulin · 7th April 2007

automation is probably one of the best/easiest ways

good luck

FatStudio · 7th April 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zboy2854

offline process EQ on the offending popping consonants using a high pass filter, you may need to roll off anywhere up to 200 Hz.

I do it with a linear phaze eq

u b k · 7th April 2007

nothing will sound as good as cutting and pasting clean t's and p's, but you gotta be good with crossfades and timing to pull it off.

other than that, hipassing the crap out of just the syllable will work.

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Stiff · 8th April 2007

I'd try cut/paste first.

nd33 · 8th April 2007

When I get hard T's editing dialogue in post I usually cut out most of the offending spike visually (in protools) where it's at it's peak and then bring the regions together and stitch them back up with a tiny crossfade. Smooths it out wonderfully most of the time. I'll zoom right in and usually only have to cut a few milliseconds to make it sound better.

For pops I do basically the same as the others have said with automated high pass, but I would copy a P that doesn't pop if it's not hard to find and it works.

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degas · 8th April 2007

I always use "change gain" in Pro Tools (or Logic).
Just lower the spikes of the "t" or "p" (or breaths, sss or whatever).

Easy and fast.

oceantracks · 9th April 2007

I've been amazed recently at how many times major artists let pops go out for release.

Lately, I've heard them from Barbara Streisand (hey maybe everyone's afraid to tell she has to do it again!), Barry Manilow, and I think as I recall Rod Stewart. These were noticeable "P" pops and it sounds like nearly nothing was done to eradicate them.

I use change gain too, or just a draw a ramp up....seems to work.

Tom H

6th April 2007	#1
AB3 Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,620 Thread Starter	Removing hard T's and pops from main vocal Working on a meditation album. Any suggestions on removing the hard t's and pops. Already recorded, so re-recording is not a solution. Perhaps my lil req de-essers are the best solution. Any other ideas? THANKS, AB

6th April 2007	#2
zboy2854 Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,941	For pops, a deesser isn't going to do you much good. Best bet is to either automate or offline process EQ on the offending popping consonants using a high pass filter, you may need to roll off anywhere up to 200 Hz. __________________ What the wise man does in the beginning, fools do in the end. --Warren Buffett The four most expensive words in the English language are: "This time it's different." --John Marks Templeton

7th April 2007	#5
u b k Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine Posts: 11,292	nothing will sound as good as cutting and pasting clean t's and p's, but you gotta be good with crossfades and timing to pull it off. other than that, hipassing the crap out of just the syllable will work. gregoire del ubk . __________________ • Tapey Compressor \| Silky Air EQ \| Vibey Plugin Squeezebox... • ...... • Kush Audio: High End Just Got Higher • ____________________

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7th April 2007	#3
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,780	automation is probably one of the best/easiest ways good luck

8th April 2007	#6
Stiff Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,794	I'd try cut/paste first.

8th April 2007	#7
nd33 Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 287	When I get hard T's editing dialogue in post I usually cut out most of the offending spike visually (in protools) where it's at it's peak and then bring the regions together and stitch them back up with a tiny crossfade. Smooths it out wonderfully most of the time. I'll zoom right in and usually only have to cut a few milliseconds to make it sound better. For pops I do basically the same as the others have said with automated high pass, but I would copy a P that doesn't pop if it's not hard to find and it works. _

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degas Gear addict Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 402	I always use "change gain" in Pro Tools (or Logic). Just lower the spikes of the "t" or "p" (or breaths, sss or whatever). Easy and fast.

9th April 2007	#9
oceantracks Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Boca Raton FL Posts: 3,955	I've been amazed recently at how many times major artists let pops go out for release. Lately, I've heard them from Barbara Streisand (hey maybe everyone's afraid to tell she has to do it again!), Barry Manilow, and I think as I recall Rod Stewart. These were noticeable "P" pops and it sounds like nearly nothing was done to eradicate them. I use change gain too, or just a draw a ramp up....seems to work. Tom H